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 Posted: Sun Jun 30th, 2019 07:03 pm
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Tom Harbin
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Hi Si,

And so it sits...





Life got in the way.

This is what it has looked like for the past 5 months or so.
I do from time to time look at it and "dream".

The additional foam at the back is because I just could not give up my 4-4-0,
so the 32" board is now a 36" board.

The track will not be EZ-Track, this is just for visuals during "planning".
The real track will be all hand-laid and hopefully a little less "toy-like".

The Church will move over to the left end of the street.
The freight station will be aligned with the siding where the ore cars are sitting,
and a second siding probably added.

No run-around I'm afraid, no room.
The circled area at the front right will have a turntable and a small stone engine house.
The siding at the back is for a team track.

The Porter BPRC conversion is also just sitting.
I finally found my LEDs so I may go ahead and finish it soon.





Thanks for asking.


Tom


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 Posted: Sat Jul 6th, 2019 05:00 pm
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Hi Tom  :wave:



Well ... Rome wasn't built in a day ! ...  L:

... it took at least a couple of years !!  :P  :P



You took pretty drastic measures on the previous layout ...  :shocked:

... which was actually a pretty darn cool track !  :)



But if you have 'a vision' & improvements of one sort or another ...  ???

... Then DO IT !  :thumb:



Don't keep us in the dark though ...  :shades:

... it's great to throw a few ideas around, which is what friends & the Site are for.  :cool:



You don't have to have made a ZILLION models to Post & say HI !  :2t:

Those Romans were damn leisurely builders, if you ask me !  ;)



Whatderyermean ? ... There's no room for a run around track ? ...

... I see  :shocked:  a run around ^^ track !!  ??? :Crazy: ;)



A curved switch, or two, perhaps ?  L:



:moose: :moose: :moose: :moose: :moose:



Si.




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 Posted: Sat Jul 6th, 2019 07:57 pm
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Thanks again Si,

Remember, you asked for it.

You have reminded me of the main reason I joined Freerails in the first place.
It is easy to lose the drive when other things come up.

But forums like this can get it restarted and gather ideas, that never would have occurred to me on my own.





I spent about an hour actually working on the layout today and ended up here.





After moving things around.

I will probably move the team track further left, and add another building to main street.

I may also add another building to the right on main street, most likely a blacksmith and/or livery stable.





As for the old layout, it has been spared the dumpster, at least for now.

I stripped off most of the rail for re-use, but my wife and I discussed it,
and I will probably rebuild it as a Christmas-season-only, DC-only, ceramic village display layout.

I also have a 2' x 4' foam board cut for a small Porter/critter-based display layout.
Mainly BPRC, but may have DCC connections as well.

Part of the idea for these two, possible, layouts,
is to use them with youth groups and community groups, to try to foster interest in MRR.





Tom


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 Posted: Sat Jul 6th, 2019 08:02 pm
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Si,

I forgot to mention,
yes I designed it so that the depot siding could be used for a run around and passing.

Not ideal but better than nothing.

I think I may keep the change of elevation as well.
It was just there as a quick way to extend the depth, but I kind of like it.

Tom


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 Posted: Fri Jul 12th, 2019 02:19 am
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Hi Tom  :wave:



I think a change in elevation, even a very small one, is noticeable & I suppose desirable ...  L:

... as long as it doesn't mess with (especially your Porters) pulling power.



I drew a plan a while back, with my usual 'grade optimism' ...  :Crazy:

... Oztrainz pointed out to me, that I'd be lucky to pull ONE On30 diecast side-dump up it !  :f:


Very true & it is actually possible that even a short transition from 0" - 1" might be tricky.  :old dude:

My drawn track plan grade was simply SAVAGE though !!  :shocked:



I think the depot loop is a pretty good space saver & an OK way to get a run-around.  :thumb:





You have still potentially got the 2nd spur ^^ at the backs 'facing direction' round the wrong way.  ???

You could not switch a car from the depot spur, to the 2nd spur, without 'running around'.

You could consider putting it as a 'mirror image' on the back right part of the layout.  L:



Looks like you've got a pretty exciting 'junk stash' under the layout Tom.  ;)

You should see  :shocked:  mine !

One can NEVER have enough lil' placky storage boxes !! ... (or tankcars)  :P



:)



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 Posted: Fri Jul 12th, 2019 05:11 am
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Si,

You got me all excited.
When I read your post I said "what a dummy,
facing the spur the other way is much better".
I went in all excited to try it out.

After pulling the spur tracks up it occurred to me why it was where it was.
That was the only EZ-Track switch I had left! Oh well.
Then I remembered that I had planned to face the spur the other way,
but decided it would have to wait for the real track.
I wasn't about to buy any more EZ-Track.

You are also right on the money about the change of elevation.
On the old YCW I had grades up and down from the main but they were 2%.
I had 1/2" foam sheets stacked and each transition was from one 1/2" sheet to the next.

Southern Arizona isn't the best place to find foam sheets,
and it is difficult for me to transport whole sheets.
Home Depot used to carry the pink stuff in 1/2" and 1" sheets.
Now they only carry 1" pre-scribed sheets.
Lowes only carries the blue stuff in 1" 2'x4' sheets with coved edges.
No place else near me to buy the sheets and neither will special order it,
unless I want a LOT of it.

Anyway, I haven't measured the grade but it is probably somewhere around 4-5%.
My 4-4-0 and 0-4-2 Porters have no problem with it even with 3 of the die-cast ore cars.
I got my first 0-4-0 Porter for Christmas last year.
It can barely make it with two ore cars.
Think I need to reduce the grade...


Here is another photo just because I figure people like photos a whole lot more than my ramblings.





Tom


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Well, I guess I'm not a model RAILROADER again just yet,
but at least I'm starting to model again.


Here is a quick update on the Stoney Creek Meat Market/Land Office build.

Added a door from the meat market to the shed.





Painted and installed the rear doors and built the platform for the rear balcony.





And started to build a boardwalk on the front (until I ran out of Balsa).





Not much, but it is the most modeling I have done since January.

Tom


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Don't worry,
there are model railroaders who have never tried to build a layout,
and probably wouldn't build one anyway.
That's the nice thing about this hobby,
or in my case-addiction.

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Woodie,

Your comment really started me thinking about the hobby.
I've had quite a few hobbies over the years, but MRR is the one that I keep coming back to.

It really is pretty much whatever you want it to be. 

I played with trains as a kid (Lionel on a 4x8 my father built) and collected trains as a young adult.
When I moved to a different area of the country, I gave it all away and just read about MRR.

I moved out of the country for several years, and there built my first "layout" on a door skin,
using all German-outline Minitrix and Rivarossi N-scale equipment with Faller and Vollmer buildings.
I don't really know which part I liked the best, building the models, or running the trains.
I did not like the track planning and tolerated the scenery.

When I returned to the States, I sold all of the N-scale and went to American-outline HO scale.
By the time I built my first track, I had a large collection of pretty much any equipment that appealed to me.
Even though the track was just on a bare 4x8 sheet of plywood it helped me to focus.
 
Too much of my equipment didn't belong with too much else of my equipment.
That scenario has played out several times for me over the years.
Each time I start planning a layout, I refocus my efforts and cut out the fat.

Today I model in On30 and look longingly at all of the 1:35n2 narrow gauge on this forum.
I'm going to resist.

When I started to replace the ceramic Christmas village buildings,
with laser-cut kits on my last layout,
I almost started down the road of Diorama-builder.
I caught myself.

If I don't build a layout I will just keep accumulating "stuff".
For me, the layout is the focus,
it doesn't need to be big or fancy or even operationally elegant,
it just needs to allow a chu-chu to run around a circle.
 
Guess I'm still just a kid.

Tom


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Howdy Tom, do what you want to do...it's all cool!
I've been building trains and layouts since I was about 9 years old-about 20 years ago (yeah, right!).
I never built a layout that I didn't like, a couple of them I wish I still had,
and one of them I do still have, the little 2 by 4 Gila Tram, thread here on Freerails.
I can work on the monstrosity in the garage and then come in to sit at this computer,
and crank up the GT and it helps me get into the "proper frame" instantly.
I gave the tram and it's equipment to a good friend a few years ago,
he was trying to build an HOn30 layout, and had to quit because he had medical problems.
He ran the little layout every day, round and round.
And when he passed on, his wife & daughter brought it back to me.
Now when I run it, I get to think about old Joe and how he loved it,
that's why I can never get rid of it!
Goodness, I have said enough!
Carry on and have fun.

Another saying from an old coffee shop wall here in Dallas-
"As you go through your life make this your goal-look for the donut, not for the hole."

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