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 Posted: Mon Dec 2nd, 2019 11:24 pm
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Hi Tom,

Now if you had a length of standard gauge track on the other side of that freight shed,
for transhipping with one O scale standard gauge box car??
O standard gauge wagon deck height would be higher than the On30 wagon deck height.

Of course the easy way out would be to simply add a shim under the smaller platform,
so that it matches your higher freight house deck height.

Or am I missing something??




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 Posted: Tue Dec 3rd, 2019 11:33 am
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Drats!  

I had this problem on my former HO layout.  I had built the structure on a piece of plywood and had tracks running through it.  I needed the tracks to obviously match up with the lead.  Grrr.  

So I cut out the foam and shimmed the plywood directly onto the benchwork until it all matched up, then secured both the lead and plywood base to prevent earthquakes from messing with the alignment.  Fortunately you don't have to worry about track height  problems as far as operations go.  

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 Posted: Tue Dec 3rd, 2019 02:38 pm
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John,

No, you're not missing anything. There won't be any standard gauge on the layout. The YCW is a small middle-of-nowhere railroad. My problem is not so much how to match them up physically but rather philosophically. Why would they crib up the tracks?

My original idea was that the freight station was built on the edge of a wash so the tracks were on a short trestle. Well, actually, I didn't have an original idea. I just built the freight station straight out of the box while recuperating from an operation. Other than a small Banta crossing shanty built as a test, it was my first structure build. Once I laid the permanent track (the EZ-Track is elevated enough that the mismatch is small) I realized that the platform was at O-Scale height not On30 height. To make it worse I am downsizing to Chiver's Finelines size cars so small even for On30.

My current thinking is that the station is on hard rock and they just cut a trestle under the station to match the contours of the hard rock rather than blast. If I sculptamold the base and make it a little more uneven that might work. The tracks are just on slightly higher rock.

If I was modeling somewhere like Morenci it would be no problem as they had to fit a whole city, mining operations and a train on a postage stamp of hard rock. Anything would be plausible there. I'm modeling someplace more like a John Wayne or Randolph Scott western town. Lots of dirt and at least a little space to grow.
I have a scene in my mind but the mismatch of the platform and the tracks keep making it seem like a caricature instead of "authentic". Probably the best solution would be to chop the trestle off and make a solid wood or rock foundation but that's not much of a challenge.

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One of the things I find most valuable on Freerails is the wealth of knowledge and the exchange of ideas. I figure there probably is some reason they would build a very slightly elevated track (or slightly depressed station) but I can't come up with one. Or maybe someone sees a potential for modification I don't see. I'm totally open, even if it means ditching the freight station altogether. It does have a few challenges since I didn't have a clue what I was doing when I built it.
 
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Steven,

This is almost exactly what I was considering this morning. I'm thinking about mounting the freight station base to a piece of foam big enough to also hold the track and make it a mini-diorama/plug-in module. Now I just need a sensible reason for the difference in ground planes. I may, or may not include the team track platform on the same base. I'm thinking about having it on a separate track but I'm not sure I can squeeze it into the area available.

The only problem is that it makes me start to consider the idea of a modular or sectional layout rather than my little one-piece island. I can confuse myself into inaction if I have the choice of two different coffee flavors in the morning. Something like these choices could put me into a corner whimpering softly to myself and making little choo-choo noises under my breath.


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For Tom -
inbound and outbound
Inbound stuff gets rolled off the wagon down onto the lower level platform for distribution by horse & cart to the town. Outbound stuff from the freight house gets rolled down into into the wagons for points elsewhere by train.

Never do to give our model workers hernias when hauling stuff to/from our trains. See what a considerate Boss I am?? ;)



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Tom,

It looks like the track behind the freight house is elevated.  Could you elevate the track to the freight house slightly to bring the car floor even with the freight platform?  The small grey platform in front could also be raised up to get it to floor level.


You could carve away some of the foam and lower the freight house with the reasoning that there's a small creek nearby that occasionally overflows it's banks.


I completely rebuilt the San Miguel yard on my layout with the reasoning that the old yard was prone to flooding from severe thunderstorms and management was tired of having to clean up the mess each time.


It's your railroad so whatever seems right to you is right.



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 Posted: Wed Dec 4th, 2019 04:48 am
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oztrainz wrote: For Tom -
inbound and outbound
Inbound stuff gets rolled off the wagon down onto the lower level platform for distribution by horse & cart to the town. Outbound stuff from the freight house gets rolled down into into the wagons for points elsewhere by train.

Never do to give our model workers hernias when hauling stuff to/from our trains. See what a considerate Boss I am?? ;)


John,

That is a very clever solution. It took me a few minutes to really absorb it but it works.

Tom

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 Posted: Wed Dec 4th, 2019 04:57 am
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Michael M wrote:
Tom,

It looks like the track behind the freight house is elevated.  Could you elevate the track to the freight house slightly to bring the car floor even with the freight platform?  The small grey platform in front could also be raised up to get it to floor level.

You could carve away some of the foam and lower the freight house with the reasoning that there's a small creek nearby that occasionally overflows it's banks.

I completely rebuilt the San Miguel yard on my layout with the reasoning that the old yard was prone to flooding from severe thunderstorms and management was tired of having to clean up the mess each time.

It's your railroad so whatever seems right to you is right.


Michael.

We just may have a winner here. Washouts have always been a problem in southern Arizona. With the caliche-ridden ground here even a dry wash floods easily during a storm. I can have a dry wash with some tell tale signs of past flooding and it would explain elevating both the track and station, maybe even make it look like it was raised after a washout.

It just may work. Thanks.

Tom

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Hi Tom  :wave:


How's things going ?  L:





You just gotta love board-by-board !  :thumb:


Did you figure out your platform height issues ?  ???



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 Posted: Sun Jun 14th, 2020 05:03 am
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Lots of progress...





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