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 Posted: Tue Nov 13th, 2018 01:40 am
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Tom,

I started out using flex track, but at the urging of some here on this forum I started hand laying track.  
Since you are not building your own turnouts why not give hand laying a try?  
You could still use the rail from the ME flex track.

Since I use BPRC I generally use brass rail which is cheap and sometimes even free.





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 Posted: Sat Nov 24th, 2018 07:09 pm
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Thought I would give a little update.

I have been working on another structure for the town. 
It is a Stoney Creek Designs Meat Market/Real Estate Office.

















While I'm waiting for some supplies for the structure I've gone back to my track "plan".







Since I still need to tear out the switch that goes downgrade to the freight stubs and the rail that goes to the left at least as far as the small straight area. 
[I think] I've decided to tear up all of the track and hand-lay new track throughout.

As for the track plan, simple. 
I'll do the landforms and basic "town" layout and then put tracks wherever there isn't a building. 
Good plan huh?

Si, there is so little "track plan" in this thread that maybe it doesn't belong in this forum.
Do you have a "Pipe Dreams" or maybe a "Round-To-It" forum?

Tom


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 Posted: Sat Nov 24th, 2018 09:56 pm
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" Si, there is so little "track plan" in this thread that maybe it doesn't belong in this forum.

Do you have a "Pipe Dreams" or maybe a "Round-To-It" forum? "



Hi Tom  :wave:


Sounds like you're being a bit hard on yourself !  :old dude:

You seem to be very busy with 'Expanding' as your Thread suggests !!  :shocked:



There is nothing worse than succumbing to the 'Must have a HUGE layout instantly' mindset.  :Crazy:

That's a sure fire way to catch 'anti-creativitus', for which there is no known cure !  :w:



I think your Thread is GREAT !  :bg:

You are entertaining me for one & probably many others who are thinking about and/or making a practical layout.  L:



You have covered masses of stuff one doesn't always think of when layout building.

Plus of course loads of  C :cool: :cool: L  other stuff like your new ^^ structure.

Keep up the nice work & always remember you can do 'it' however YOU want to !  :P



As for what Forum you are in, it's your choice.  ???

We are not running a prison camp here at Freerails ... thank goodness.

But if you wanna say get The Yellow Creek Western moved to the On30 Forum, we can do that no problem.  :thumb:



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 Posted: Sat Nov 24th, 2018 10:05 pm
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Si,

If you're fine with it here, so am I. 
At least I'll know where to find it. 

I've been keeping the non-planning part as short as possible to not get too far from planning versus building/re-building. 
Guess I'll just go for it and if someone thinks it should be moved to On30, I'm fine with that also. 
I just need someplace to vent and get ideas.

Tom

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 Posted: Sat Nov 24th, 2018 10:16 pm
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Hi Tom  :wave:



The WORST THING to do as a Member ... is NOT POSTING ones ideas & models etc. !  :f:

There is a place for everyone & everything here at Freerails.  :)

I think the diversity of the ideas & models here, is what makes Freerails a mine of railroadin' inspiration !  :thumb:



It's all part of Mission Modeling anyway !  :shades:


Post whatever takes yer fancy at the time is my general theory.  :brill:

The story just   g   r   o   w   s   .   .   .   :slow:



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 Posted: Sat Nov 24th, 2018 10:19 pm
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Before anyone asks. 
I know it would be faster to just make a new baseboard and go from there. 
I have three, no four, reasons to recycle instead of replace:

1. I can no longer get standard 1" 4'x8' sheets of foam anywhere remotely local (that wording just sounds wrong but I'll go with it anyway). 
I used to be able to get both half inch and one inch pink foam in four by eight sheets from Home Depot, 
or one inch (with lipped edges) blue foam in two by four sheets from Lowes. 
Home Depot now only sells the one inch four by eights but they are now scored which significantly weakens them as a baseboard.

2. The "cut" at the right hand side was the single hardest, messiest and longest single job on the layout. 
It was made with all hydrocal rocks from Woodland Scenics molds. 
The biggest is maybe three inches by four inches. 
They are all stacked, rotated, cut up, etc. to make the cut.

3. I have enough foam on hand to "finish" this baseboard but not enough to replace it.

4. Where's the fun in doing it the easy way?

Tom 


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Sometimes a fresh canvas is the best way to start rather than trying to force things to work.

I've got a re-build that I'm slowly working on and just thought it better to start from scratch.  

It was a little scary to make the decision, but I'm glad I did.  

All kinds of new possibilities are presenting themselves.



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 Posted: Mon Nov 26th, 2018 09:24 pm
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Hi Tom  :wave:



I thought I'd add a few of my random thoughts to the party.  :P

My last 'layout' would now be considered historical ... Cos it was made  s o o o o o  long ago.  :old dude:



I didn't know $4!7 about 'operations' back then & maybe still don't !  L:

But I got lucky with my 'non-track' plan.  :shocked:

Whacked the track down 5-mins after getting it back from the store.

And BINGO ! ... A reasonably good, but entirely lucky loada track down.


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The single biggest problem for operations on this ^^ trackplan ...

... is the fact that the tracks in the centre are both facing the wrong way.  :f:



If they were facing in the opposite direction ...  :dt:

... you could switch cars from the fork on the left, to the tracks in the centre no problem.

But as it is, without a runaround-loop, which would not be needed if the centre tracks were reversed ...

... you cant !  :f:



I'm sure you've already realised that, but it might help anyone looking in who hasn't ...

... it's just the kind of thing that can happen if you are an operations neewbeey, like ME !  ???



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 Posted: Mon Nov 26th, 2018 10:06 pm
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Si,

Very good point about the points (switches)!

I do realize it, when I'm doing operations, and then promptly forget it again when I think about track planning!

If I end up tearing out all of the track I can actually fix at least the longer inside stub.
Notice I said if. I'm still debating the whole rebuild/replace dilemma. 

On one hand I think it is an interesting exercise to take a fairly typical Christmas Village and turn it into a model railroad. 
It is also interesting how you extend a foamboard layout. I have decided the L-Girder backbone I built has to go. 
It was a comfortable way station but too old school and semi-permanent for where I want to take the layout.

I think I have a way to expand it without resorting to external support but I'm not sure I want to go there just yet. 
One problem is that right now, if I just slap down some track to replace what I tore up I could give this to someone with no layout. 
It is already set up for DCC with servo controlled points, even a programming track. 
Once the track is all off; if I decide to scrap it--I just scrap it.


I may also have an answer to my foam availability problem, Polyiso. 
Steve Hatch uses it for his modules and it is available locally in 2". 
Never considered it because of the foil sheathing.

I know I should probably just throw the whole thing in the dumpster and build a 30" x <= 119" layout (in sections).
But I can't give up my 4-4-0s just yet.

You said you're okay with random thoughts, well there were a few.

Thanks for putting the switching problem in words. 
Maybe now I will remember it when I "plan".

Tom

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Tom,

I'd still like to see a run around track in there somewhere.  
It really can come in handy, and even if you are not using it much cars can still be spotted on it.

I have a small oval of track that I first started with and sometimes use it to stash ore cars that are getting in the way.  
The prototype does it so why can't we?




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