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 Posted: Thu Aug 22nd, 2019 05:41 pm
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Reg H wrote:
Yep.  That's the one. 
On Franklin Street one block north of Railroad Avenue and one lot west of 12th. 
 


Careful, Reg, now that I know where you are,
I might just show up asking to see the layout!

I haven't been to Shelton in a while.

I used to come to the logger parade every year with my WW2 living history group,
but trailering the Jeep all the way there was a royal pain for such a short timeframe.

The group was founded by Steve Gay who lives out on Cole Road,
his family used to own the newspaper there and he knows everyone in the area, it seems.

Those parades were always fun and sometimes the Simpson would be running that day as well.
I still feel like a fool that I didn't go chase the Simpson, not once.




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 Posted: Thu Aug 22nd, 2019 09:12 pm
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Lee:

At this point it looks better in photos.  

I chased Simpson a few times with John Henderson. 

I have a lot of railfan photos that need to be scanned,
and some method of making them available.
 
Not a whole lot of Simpson, but some. 
Mostly Burlington Northern.

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" And that certainly is a long rabbit trail that has little to do with model railroading,

except the basement "



Hi Reg  :wave:



Half the reason I tune in here to 'The Freerails Channel' ...  :thumb:

... is for adventures down long rabbit holes !  ;)



If I wanted more predictable & yawn inducing fodder ...  :y:

... I guess I'd watch more T.V. !  :dope:



:moose:



Si.




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 Posted: Tue Sep 3rd, 2019 01:07 am
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The log unloader is essentially complete.

Here it is in what I think will be its general location in relationship to the mill.

I need to work on the lighting on this part of the layout.





The inhaul is just hanging there. 
I haven't quite figured out how I want to terminate it.  

There are some small details that will be completed,
once it is in it's final location and scenery is roughed in.

I am not as pleased with this kit as I am with the mill,
either in terms of the kit itself and my assembly work.  

It is still quite a nice piece and will make a colorful addition to the layout. 
But there are things that BTS could have done better,
and some things I could have done better.

One glaring example is the angle of the boom.  It should be a bit higher. 
But I assembled it with reference to the configuration of the parts,
and looking at the photos. 

It would have been better if I had changed the assembly sequence,
and not installed the boom until the reel house had been mounted on the piling.  


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 Posted: Tue Sep 3rd, 2019 01:36 am
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I have started work on the engine house.

This is the south wall.





Back side view





This kit is no where near the quality of the BTS kits. 
It is a good kit, just not quite up to the excellence of the BTS stuff.

A big difference is that it is obvious that Builders in Scale,
are working with a much lower capacity laser.  
The sheet materials are VERY thin, and everything else is strip wood.
 
It also appears that the laser is designed to primarily cut in one direction,
and must kind of jog to cut at 90 degrees.  

I also have some disagreement with their sequencing. 
They recommend painting all the parts before assembly.  DO NOT DO THAT!!! 
The sheet materials are so thin, and made doubly so by the scribing,
that trying to paint it without any bracing will almost certainly result in warping.  

I plan to paint the walls after the framing is all done,
so that there is some substance to the structure.

Note the framing on the walls. 
The instructions recommend assembling the framing over the full size plans,
much as one would build a balsa airplane. 
The wall sheathing is then to be added to the framing.  
Those frame pieces are 1/16" square!!!! 
Coupled with the paper thin sheathing, that just looks like the hard way to me.

On this first wall I dimensioned the framing from the plans,
and then assembled it on the sheathing. 
So far that approach has worked out very well. 
It is the approach I will use on the rest of the kit.

The idea of assembling that framing on the plans, removing it from the plans,
and then trying to get it situated properly on the wall sheathing (or vice versa)
just does not look like a good idea.

My Chopper came in very handy getting all those vertical members the same length. 

The one thing that Builders in Scale have it over the BTS kits is the full size plans. 
It helps, in conjunction with the photos, visually how things are supposed to go together. 

This is a very small engine house. 
The little GE locos I have for the logging operation will barely fit. 
But I think it will fit in well with the rest of the layout. 
A big engine house would look very much out of place.


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Hi Reg

Impressed by your progress on the mill etc.

Wish I had any progress but rather going backwards,
since having to repair the damage caused by the grandson’s playing with “Pop’s trains”.

I have decided to relay a little used spur as one serving the company’s Plywood Division.
But then need new switches and rail joiners before I can start (Yes this is fun!!!)

The unloader looks good.
However re your query that the “in haul is just hanging and not sure how to terminate”.
I would answer by saying it needs cutting off at the base of the unloader crane and attach a hook.
Unloading in this case, would I suspect be dangerous but common.
 
There would be straps attached to the brow log.
When the train was positioned for unloading,
the crew would pass the straps under the logs and OVER the car frame.
These would be attached to the unloader and then tightened, tipping the load,
and hopefully not the car, into the pond.

I will attach some photos by Ivan Ergish (via John Henderson),
on the unloader at Shelton, which show a similar situation.

Best regards

Alan


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Although The Shelton unloader was self-propelled,
its operation when unloading, is the same as a fixed version.

In the photo, the cable has been passed under the load,
and the engine is tightening the line.

Alan





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A view from the pond as unloading a car starts.

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Head on view,
showing the unloading cable hooked onto the loader awaiting the next loads.

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 Posted: Tue Sep 3rd, 2019 04:26 pm
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Alan:

Well that is pretty darn simple. 
I believe they called this kind of operation "parbuckling". 
And, yes, it does look dangerous. 

Judging from the photos,
it appears that the crane angle on my unloader is not all that far out of line. 
Especially if I keep log loads low.

I am planning on using the Kadee log cars. 
I guess I better go shopping and find out if they are still available.

Re:  Grandkids playing with the trains...
my grandkids are under strict orders to touch nothing unless I am present.  

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