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 Posted: Fri Jun 7th, 2019 10:53 pm
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I cut my own ties from sheet stock.
The ties are "sorta" 5" to 6" wide (in 1:35 scale) but I tend to use 1/8" or 3/16" bass wood for them.
The only time I use square ties is when building track on a trestle, etc.
I like the "profile" ties since it is far easier to bury them in the dirt (my likes)
and it is easier to push spikes into them VS square stock.
I have used "flea market" track with the rails stripped off,
but I found that it is easier and cheaper (for me) to just buy Micro Engineering stock rail at the LHS.
There are so few shows in this area that if I wanted to lay some track,
I'd have to wait quite a while before there was a show,
and even then chances are that there wouldn't be any code 83 rail there anyway.
I have been hand laying HOn3, HO, etc. since I was about 11 years old...I am now over 70.
I'm still learning!

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A photo of the bridge leading into the Station for Manchu Pichu,

note some rail is not bolted down to ties, and the various length's of ties.







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Ken,

Another great photo!  Thanks.




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Well, that fully answered one of my questions.
I guess everyone sorta fudges the look, and does what suits them within certain tolerances.

One of the links had this comment here:

"I looked at some the valuation documentation for the D&RG west of Antonito.
In 1918 the ties were 7" x 8" x 6.5'.
Believe it or not, as part of the valuation process, they counted and listed how many of each type of wood the ties were.
They were listed as being either Pine or Spruce."

Now to get out ye olde paper scale rule and measure out some examples for 1:55n3

Since I am making a really small layout, I am going to cut the ties myself from wood.
I want that rough hewn tie end look with rounded sides, like I see in a lot of really old photos.
A while back I guess-timated on some ties I was cutting by hand as a test.
It seems I was really close to scale. 

Stub switches sound really cool.
Now to figure out how to do that!

Judging by the figure, it is entirely possible I am modeling a ghost railway.  :P







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Well of course I can't let go of this whole process.

If I make an oval that is 15" radius that comes down to about 222 ties if I use 24 inch spacing.

I guess I better get to hand carving more ties.



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Well, I don't think that everyone "fudges" the look of the ties...
remember that ties were either cut, like yours, from tree branches,
or they were sawn by sawmills which maybe cut sizes that weren't "standardized".
Roads like the D&RGW, C&S, and even 2 footers like SR&RL did adhere to pretty much standard sizes.
Others did indeed cut what they wanted,
and still others bought ready-made ties from mills which could have varied from job to job.
It's a narrow gauge tradition anyway and it's YOUR railroad so do what you want.
I did note that your hand hewn twig ties do look like the old lumber and industrial railway ties.
You may need to know that you will probably have to drill spike holes in these ties,
unless you plan on glueing the rail down.
Those little rascals are hard enough to bend spikes and send many of them into the air...
or in your eyes!
I write from experience on the "twig tie" affair!
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Could you make the ties out of a wooden dowel? 

Sand the top and bottom flat and leave the sides rounded?





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Cut a curved tie out of balsa.



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Good questions and suggestions.

I think I will just glue all the rails down.
Maybe later add some spikes for visual effect here and there.

Cutting down a dowel, or using an other pre cut wood,
is about as much effort as doing my hand cutting.
It takes time though.
But I have time and am sort of into the time consuming side of making a smaller layout.

It's the end result I am seeking, which is that really early railway line look.

This link shows some interesting tie ends:

http://digital.denverlibrary.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p15330coll22/id/12541/rec/7




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I've been looking at a lot of videos online.

I am interested in trying spiked rails without the soldered Pc board method.

Is there anything wrong in what this guy teaches in his video?

https://youtu.be/U7co1sKvIQU



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