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 Posted: Fri Dec 14th, 2018 04:00 pm
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Thanks for the complement.
I will have to learn how to make videos of BPRC trains actually running.

One project I would like to try would be a BPRC coupling that would work (almost) anywhere on the layout including DC and DCC layouts.
 
AS my layout is UK based it would be based on the much maligned tension lock.
The idea being to use a servo to raise the coupling hook.

A scratch build would be needed.
I am thinking brass tube for the pivot and brass rod for the hook.

Initial problems are I know nothing about soldering brass and need a really fine saw.
I saw a jewellers one on TV that looked just like a wire.
It probably costs a fortune.

Perhaps the initial prototype should be at a larger scale.




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 Posted: Fri Dec 14th, 2018 09:22 pm
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Here is my remote coupling using Deltang BPRC


https://youtu.be/ZDWcx4PuuB4





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All you need to know about making a video of your BPRC layout is to have a buddy do the video and you run the train.
Much easier that way.

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 Posted: Sun Dec 16th, 2018 01:13 pm
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Dave, that should be...digit-all!!!

I model O-scale. 
My old layout was in half my upstairs space, approximately 13x12. 
In January of this year I tore it all down and rebuilt using the entire upstairs space 13x30. 
All 18 of my engines are BPRC and all my equipment still uses 3 rail, Hi-Rail wheels, only the middle rollers are gone.

I have zero wiring on the layout, but I may eventually wire the turntable. 
All turnouts are hand thrown. 
I rebuilt using Mianne bench work, expensive but precise and quick to put together. 
I used Atlas, Micro-Engineering, and Signature Switch track components, plus built 7 turnouts of my own (what a nightmare). 
They work, but I can certainly tell the difference between them and the Signature Switch turnouts and plan on replacing a couple next year.

The track is all in place and I'm running trains to see how the plan is working before I put down any scenery. 
The main loop is smooth as silk.
I have to watch when I go across a couple of my handmade turnouts on the sidings, need to go slow.

I have one area where the aisle width is only 24", but otherwise it's wide open in the center of the room(s).
Here's kinda what it looks like:





The longest siding in the yard can hold 14 boxcars, that's approximately 14 feet.
The curves are 49.5 and 40.5 radius and #6 turnouts, all code 148 rail. 
The Hi-rail wheels have no problem except on my hand built turnouts where some of the spike heads come in contact with the wheels.
That's why I have to go slow in the sidings. 
I'm slowing identifying the culprits and removing or relocating them.

The main loop is .7 scale miles long.

The stairs are in the middle, left side of the diagram. 
The 2 black stripes are walls that I needed to show so the Mianne benchwork would be designed correctly. 
At the head of the stairway is an 8' long shelf, there wasn't enough room to use any benchwork there,
but the shelf is supported at each end, one end attached to the wall and the other attached to the Mianne benchwork. 
The stairs make a right turn at the shelf.




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Thanks Bob,

That's the first time I've heard of Mianne benchwork (I don't get out much) :)

No wiring, don't we all just love that little factor. 

You have a nice long run there to be able to sit back and watch those eighteen big O scale locos rumble past. 

Tell us about your favourite battery arrangements used to run those big fellas.

Cheers

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 Posted: Mon Dec 17th, 2018 11:00 am
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Rick,

I use Rx65b receivers and various transmitters from RCS Australia. 

Most of my engines have 9.6v, 2000mAh NiMh battery packs, some use 11.1v 2200mAh LiPo packs.

I get 2.5 hours run time.







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 Posted: Mon Dec 17th, 2018 02:04 pm
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Very sturdy, neat and flexible looking benchwork Bob.

Out of curiosity I visited their site, watched the video and looked at the kits, but as you say, it certainly ain't cheap!

I guess though as a long term structure it could justify the investment.





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 Posted: Mon Dec 17th, 2018 09:03 pm
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Doug,
It was a bit "pricey", but if you saw my old bench work you would understand :doh:
Plus, I'm having a lot of pain in my hands, doc says it's arthritis but I think there's more to it than that (probably too much time on the internet). 
Anyway, I've gotten to the point that it's painful to swing a hammer or put in a screw. 

With this system you simply twist the twist-lock fasteners once everything is in and lined up and you're done. 
Not only that, it looks like a piece of furniture. 
Some guys have stained or painted theirs and it looked great in the photos. 
Mianne makes the pieces in 6 inch increments I believe. 
The frame is light weight but sturdy and each leg has an adjustable foot, the plywood top turns it into a solid unit. 
The entire bench work can be taken down, once whatever is on top is taken off. 
If I ever get tired of trains I can always use it for something else!!!

I got all mine at once, but you can order any amount you want and build it in stages. 
He seems pretty busy so if anyone wants to go this route it takes a couple of months.
You can send him a plan of your layout and he'll determine the pieces that you need.
Height is variable too.  Standard legs are 48", I had mine cut down to 35" because of the knee walls upstairs.

Again, it is pricey. 
I just happened to be in a good position at the moment to afford it (I was also having my small kitchen remodeled). 
I looked at it this way...don't buy any O scale engines or rolling stock for a year and put that $$$ towards the Mianne bench work.

Rick mentioned making a video.
Here's one I did of my MTH RailKing Imperial USRA 0-6-0 back in 2015 on Youtube:

BPRC O-SCALE 0-6-0




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Bob - Those MTH locos and stock are impressive and the "clackety-clack" over the rail joints is very emotive.

I studied pictures of their Goose when I was contemplating converting my Precision Craft model to the older Pierce Arrow based version,
and was surprised at how much larger the MTH model was compared to the Precision Craft one.

I had thought they were both O scale.





It was a very useful guide though to enable me to convert this





Into this







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Great looking models Doug!

That video was of my old 3-rail layout before I removed the center rail, then tore the whole thing down.

I have 2 engines with BlueRail Bluehorse board installed, a Weaver RS3 and a Bachmann E7.
The E7 even has a bluetooth speaker inside so the sound comes out of the engine and not my Ipad.
The BlueRail board barely has enough amperage.
The E7 doesn't brown out once in a while after startup when trying to move, but most of the time it works fine.
I may convert them to the DelTang boards as it doesn't appear BlueRail is doing anything at the moment.
I don't like having different systems when I don't have to.
Maybe next year I'll make the change.




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