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 Posted: Sun Dec 16th, 2018 07:16 pm
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Some time ago, I noticed a GE mining type steeplecab body at Shapeways.
Ordered one of them for inspection.

The designer had intended to put the body on an plain Athearn switcher chassis.
Tried this but found the medium sized switcher trucks unsatisfactory.
They didn't represent well the heavy articulated power trucks of the prototype.





So checked for alternatives.

Found some old Kleinbahn Be4/4 boxcab which looked better.
The weak point is that I had to sacrifice traction effort, with two powered axles only.

Those Kleinbahn boxcabs are strange contraptions;
they actually have an 1'Bo1' arrangement, with the idler trucks guiding the center power truck which is rather loose in the chassis. 






During tinkering with the body, the roof cracked in several places and had to be discarded.

Here at the test drive on the layout, Milwaukee steeplecab placed behind her for comparision. 
These are both serious machines, no trolley stuff.





Shaped a roof from sheet brass,
and soldered attachment points both for the standard pantograph and the two side current collectors to it.

Kennecott used side catenary in the pit to avoid getting in the way of the huge electric shovels which loaded the hoppers.
 









Painted her similar to Kennecotts motors, but chose to letter her for my own mining company.

Have fun, Gerold












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VERY cool. 

Kennecott actually used steeple cabs in McGill, NV. 
It was at the smelter, so there was nothing to get in the way. 
So you are not to far away. 

LOVE IT!

http://nnry.com/history/httpdocs/galleries/locos/kcc/electrics.jpg




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That is very cool!
As you stated, this ain't some trolley...Love them juice jacks.

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That's made up into a super loco Gerold and I do like the pantograph, very "technical" looking!



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Steven B wrote: VERY cool. 

Kennecott actually used steeple cabs in McGill, NV. 
It was at the smelter, so there was nothing to get in the way. 
So you are not to far away. 

http://nnry.com/history/httpdocs/galleries/locos/kcc/electrics.jp


Thanks for the link.

Kennecott apparently had a (small) operation in Ely...

Seems McGill was the location of the corresponding smelter.

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slateworks wrote: That's made up into a super loco Gerold and I do like the pantograph, very "technical" looking!

Doug,

This is only a plain old Walters pantograph, medium size; same as the ones I used on the Cal-P boxcab in my introduction.

I use them on most locos, the larger ones they sold are suitable only for a GG-1 and such heavy machinery, the smaller ones for trolleys.

Glad you all like my contraptions. [toast]

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Gerold, that's correct. 
Actually the Ruth Pit was at one time the largest pit mine in the world, then of course the pit in Utah eclipsed it by a mile or 30 or 300.  :hyp:

The electrics were only used in McGill, NV at the smelter, to switch the ore cars. 
I believe the two motors in the picture were the only two. 
The one on the right sure looks a lot like yours in shape and appearance.  

The ore was hauled out of the pit by ugly little steamers 0-6-0Ts, marshaled at Ruth, then taken by big 2-8-0s to McGill,
never even really going to Ely itself, except for exchange in the Ore Yard. 
Ely was mostly the operation of the Nevada Northern, a separate operation while owned by the Kennecott people. 

This was done because industrial railroads had different rules than common carriers,
and Nevada Consolidated Copper (the forerunner of the Kennecott operation)
wanted to take full advantage of the lax laws for industry.

Later the ore was hauled out of the pit by GE 70 ton locos, soon replaced by a conveyor or lift for loading cars at the top. 
When tractors/dump trucks got big enough and powerful enough they switched out all rail,
and hauled the ore to reloads on the Nevada Northern ROW and the trains were hauled to the smelter by KCC RS2s primarily.

I just love your motor, you must build some Ingoldsby dump cars for it!  :)




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Hi Gerold  :wave:



Great lookin' loco you've made from that 3D-print.  :thumb:

A lot of work too, with finding the mech. new roof & all.

:boogie:

She really was worth the extra effort though.

A nice one to see alongside your Milwaukee steeple cab in the photo.  :)



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Steven B wrote: I just love your motor, you must build some Ingoldsby dump cars for it!  :)


Steven, 
Thanks for additional info.
Have a nice booklet about the Utah operations of Kennecott, but nothing about Ely/ Mc Gill.   

Have some ore cars already.... of course the real stuff... old Suydam kits, built up in various configurations.
Old man Suydam had sold plenty of weird stuff back then!  
These are the prototype cars built by Ed himself.
They differ in some small details from the production kits.
Purchased them from a person who collected some boxes of stuff from Ed's Attic long ago.











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Si. wrote:
A nice one to see alongside your Milwaukee steeple cab in the photo.  :)

Si, 
The Milwaukee steeplecab had a story of its own... deserves her own thread some day. 
Was a bent and VERY incomplete body from the "Big Brass Barrel" ...
worked for months on it,
now she rides on an Athearn switcher drive.




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