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 Posted: Sat Mar 16th, 2019 08:29 pm
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I agree with Eddie, there's no need to delete "off topic" posts,
except maybe when a post or several begin to take off in some sideways direction and veer off course.
This discussion has to do with radio control and wherever the road leads, that's the way it goes.

I am so old timey and ignorant of new speech, when I heard the word "Bluetooth",
I thought it was something that the dentist needed to check out.
How's this for straying off the beaten topic.  ???

Tony, I also wonder about US manufacturers and their seemingly head in the sand approach to r/c.
It could be that they have way too much invested in DCC technology to want change,
or maybe it's just that they are a BUNCH OF OLD MEN who don't want to change anyway.

Off topic song lyrics..."I hope I die before I get old!"

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Woodie,
The old term "follow the money" applies big time in my view.

Your comment is spot on: 
"It could be that they have way too much invested in DCC technology."

That being said though, the negative reactions I've experienced from other modellers,
at the local hobby shops around Ottawa, baffle me as well. 





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Keep your eyes and ears open.

You will soon be surprised.



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Bob Walker wrote: Keep your eyes and ears open.

You will soon be surprised.


Mysterious!

Could it be that BlueRail will finally get round to releasing their next board?


From what I know about it and experience with the first board it is every bit as good as DCC,

No, more capable with full 2 way comms.




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There is a system being developed in the UK, Protocab, which is battery powered radio control.

It is I believe aiming to do DCC over radio so would provide sound capability, but it's not reached this point yet.

It has been a while in development.

https://www.protocab.com/welcome

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Yes Frank Protocab has been around some time and already uses 2 way communication.
 
For me the problem is you can only have one loco moving selected from the 9 locos the TX can handle.
The 2018 developments were to be a new transmitter that allowed for 2? locos moving (only two?) plus other stuff.

Like BlueRail no new product was released in 2018.

Protocab uses the 2.4Ghz band but they designed their own comms protocol.
The price is high as well, about twice as much as Deltang gear.
Deltang have the advantage that their stuff is based on existing R/C hobby technology,
with the clever bits in the receiver.

A simple radio module for DCC would be interesting,
but they would have to have a decent controller.




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Bob Walker wrote: Keep your eyes and ears open.

You will soon be surprised.


Interesting I just got a email from Dave Rees at BlueRail Trains this morning.

Things are moving but no details yet.

If you want to be in the information loop visit the BlueRail Trains contact page on their website.

bluerailtrains.com




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Yes, I received the same email yesterday with a survey request included.

I have not sat down to reply to the survey yet.

Thinking about it.


But, I'm also pretty much committed to DelTang now and with the smaller receiver that DelTang offers,

I'm wondering why I would switch.


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I got the email too, filled out the survey.



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I filled out the survey as well.

I too have Deltang products, but as I tried a pair of the original Bluehorse boards,
it will be interesting to see how the latest product compares.
 
Previously on the BlueRail site they stated that the newer boards would be much smaller,
but that reference has been removed.
We will have to wait and see.

The original board had some shortcomings for me.
It was large, needed better battery management although that was on the board but not yet enabled.

The Android App never caught up with the IoS version,
and most importantly I just did not like the touch screen interface.

A possible solution was demonstrated where you could use a game controller to give tactile feedback.
Hopefully they will have made progress in that area.




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