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 Posted: Sat Sep 28th, 2019 10:41 am
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Some years ago I bought an electric motor at evilbay
(seems most of my stories begin like this?)
resembling the huge EL-2B GE motor - generator "Streamliners" of the Virginian.

When it showed up, I found that the bodies were built from styrene,
the cabs were duplicated from some commercial model in resin
(why didn't he cut the cabs from some cheap blue box loco?)
and looked like Swiss cheese, with plenty of air holes in them....
And those weren't filled, but simply painted over.
And yes, they were Armor Yellow.

Chassis was/is PC board, one unit a dummy,
one motorized with modified Roco trucks from some European loco.

The other six trucks were resin castings. 
With two trucks for traction only, and no ballast weight,
not exactly a stump puller.

Motor was a precision type of unknown origin,
with a weird switch/resistor arrangement, to have it running on low speed.

An very uncommon way to build a locomotive....
I guess the builder had some background other than model railroading.

 
This are those things as I received them:

















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 Posted: Sat Sep 28th, 2019 11:02 am
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.... Two weeks ago, I became frustrated with the MANY projects cluttering my workbench,
and decided to begin a quick and easy thing instead....
Motorizing the dummy....

Ha!  
Two evenings, instant success + satisfaction!  
Little did I know....

My guess was that those Roco trucks came from a Life-Like Sharknose
(which was produced by Roco in the dark ages)
.... now found this completely wrong.
Have plenty of Sharks.... no piece similar.

So looked for other options....
Athearn blue box, my favorite for complete chassis swaps....
Would require extensive modifications,
have done a 4-4-4-4 transfer switcher once, no desire to duplicate this again.

Found a pair of metal trucks of dubious origin, which fit as if built for this application....
Added a Roco motor from the parts box....
Athearn universals....
Presto!  
A second motorized unit!


Pic shows motorized dummy in the rear, before decoders & disaster with first unit.





Now, with the dummy running and a decoder added,
I put a decoder in the initial motorized unit....
Ran so-so for ten minutes, than stalled.... 
Responded erratic....

Tried decoder with another motor, with jumper cables.... 
Shot! 

Changed motor to a Roco, like on the other loco.... 
Replaced Lenz decoder.... 
It refused to run acceptable despite cleaning of track and wheels. 

Why did it work with the old motor?  
**when** it ran, there was a loud thumping noise from the rear truck.... 
So disassembled both trucks and found..... 
Split gears! 

Again, down to the parts box....
Found ONE nice complete axle with gear in the Shark box.... 
Reamed out the better gear and glued it to the axle....
Soldered nickel-silver wire to the lousy brass pickup pads.... 
Next try. 

Now she runs OK, still with a light thump from the gear.
And, by adjusting CVs, I have both running synchronous back to back...

Now for detailing and decaling the bodies! 
Couplers, lights, ... 




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 Posted: Sat Sep 28th, 2019 05:49 pm
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Looks like a pretty fine "those parts weren't meant to go with that" confection Gerold.

Aren't parts boxes wonderful!


Are the bodies to survive or be subjected to more of your gentle handiwork?

I know nothing of these types of loco but they do look rather ape faced!

;)




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 Posted: Sat Sep 28th, 2019 06:54 pm
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Hi Doug,


Ha, you used the right word .... "gentle" ....
I have to admit I considered to add other cabs, FM, Shark, Alco.... 

However as I have filled in the nasty holes in the resin,
and have repainted them OK, I may keep them.


Right now I am rummaging in the decal box,
looking for REALLY BIG Letters saying "California Pacific." 

However, I am afraid I have either to order O Scale letters,
or have them custom printed.

Wings or a large emblem may improve the look of the nose.


Something that's easy to modify is the height of the locos....
The real EL-2Bs are really tall.

Have already shimmed the trucks,
and will put spacers between floor and body.


Here is a link to the real thing:

VGN EL 2B


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 Posted: Sat Sep 28th, 2019 11:13 pm
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Thanks Gerold.

It certainly was a big blighter!





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 Posted: Sun Sep 29th, 2019 08:49 am
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Tinkered with decals in the wee hours of last night.... 

Assembled "Cal-P" from "CP Rail"....
and applied my custom printed emblems.

Then tried various wings and nose decorations.
 
It came to my mind that I had in the back of my head,
that a cab unit with zebra stripes would be an interesting experiment.

Only a few roads decorated their F-Units like this
(MKT and BN come to my mind)

Now, took some pics in the morning sun,
not sure which nose treatment I will ultimately choose. 

I tend to the #130 version, with the pronounced peak.

Decals haven't been soaked with softener,
so they still can be removed without great fuss. 

















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 Posted: Fri Oct 4th, 2019 07:26 am
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Some progress on motors.... 

Attached pilots which came with those locos to the leading trucks.
 
Found they were fabricated on a lathe from a heavy brass tube, then cut in half....
Not noticeable from the outside, but inside there are still the marks of the cutting tool.

Now with shimmed bolsters and spacers under the body,
there was a wide gap between body and pilots,
so fabricated a filler strip from brass sheet.
 
Also added glazing
(flush windshields, what a pain with my weary eyes and tatty fingers!)
and sun visors, cut from Kadee coupler envelopes. 







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 Posted: Fri Oct 4th, 2019 04:18 pm
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Those are pretty cool locos!
I like the "almost" UP type of paint job, red stripe between yellow and gray.
Nice work!

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They look both streamlined and brutish.

As a large electric of a certain vintage should.






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