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 Posted: Fri Nov 1st, 2019 05:32 pm
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Hi.

You will find the COM port in "Connections (COM & LPT)" or the like.
My Windows is in German so the English terms may be slightly different.
"Anschlüsse" translated to English means "Connections".





Above is how my device manager is looking:
COM7 is the "fake" PL 2303 cable (after installing the unblocked old drivers) connected to my Prog4,
and COM4 is the controller board of my CNC Mill / Laser Cutter.
So I set DT-Programmer to use COM7, and all is working perfect.

By the way, "Kirk" is the network name of my computer.
All systems in my home network are named after StarTrek characters.

If your cable did not show of here,
then the drivers are not correct, or not properly installed, or the cable is broken.
Or you have not plugged in the cable into a USB port directly on your PC.
USB hubs are not good for any type of USB-Serial converter, no matter which one.

I first would try a different USB port
(best an USB 2.0 one as USB 3.xxx may be not stable enough for an emulated COM port).
If this didn't fix the issue,
go ahead download and install new drivers from FTDI site as mentioned on the Amazon page.
If all this still did not work, most likely the cable is broken, and you should send it back.


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Another thing, for me the fix from the site you posted a link did not work with my PL 2303 cable.
I found and tried it without success, at least for me.
Only the manual installation and selection of the old drivers does work for me,
as described on the site I've linked to.




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 Posted: Fri Nov 1st, 2019 09:50 pm
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I tried downloading the drivers and ended up with WIN10 losing my logon PIN.

Then my tablet hung on booting, so it has taken over 3 hours to recover the computer.

I won't be loading any more drivers anytime soon!





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 Posted: Fri Nov 1st, 2019 11:38 pm
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Claus60 wrote: Hi.

You will find the COM port in "Connections (COM & LPT)" or the like.
My Windows is in German so the English terms may be slightly different.
"Anschlüsse" translated to English means "Connections".






You may find the device manager as above has the cable identified with a COM port,
but has a little yellow warning sign against it.

This indicates the driver installation is faulty. 
There is a fix on the FTDI website, I think this is the correct link:

https://www.ftdichip.com/Support/Documents/InstallGuides/AN_396%20FTDI%20Drivers%20Installation%20Guide%20for%20Windows%2010.pdf

See section 3.3. 

The equivalent of the above device driver window,
is on page 9 if there is no fault, page 11 with the fault identified.

I had a similar problem with a USB chip driver,
and fixed it OK using a similar procedure.

Frank


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 Posted: Sat Nov 2nd, 2019 01:07 am
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My problem might have been caused by not realising that FTDI chips don't work with USB 3 ports,

and my computer has only those.





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 Posted: Sat Nov 2nd, 2019 08:57 am
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Hi.

It would be difficult to find a cable that is working with USB 3.x at all, I fear.

USB 3.0 is good for high speed data transfer but the low speed things
(like virtual COM ports or 2.4 GHz wireless mouse/keyboards and similar)
are often no longer working with USB 3.
So any useful PC should still have some USB 2.0 ports on board imho.

If you don't get your cable working on USB 3 it could be worth to try an USB 2.0 hub,
also hubs in general are difficult for virtual com ports too.
Plug an USB 2.0 hub into an USB 3.0 Port and connect the cable to it.
If you don't have one, borrow one from friends/neighbors for a short test.
What can you loose (excerpt for a few minutes of time)?
If it is working with an USB 2.0 hub they are very cheap (starting around 1€)


I think if I were you I would look for an cheap and old laptop (with Windows 7)
that I would place inside my model railroad room.
Such laptops you most often can buy for around 50€ (or GBP). 

Normally the battery is not good on those but you still can use them with AC power.
This laptop is not only for programming DT receivers,
but for many things around model railroading.
From reading forum posts and programming decoders and receivers,
up to controlling some CNC tools or even the whole layout,
such a laptop can be very useful in many areas. 


Edit:
I've added a link in this post but it is too long for the forum software.
In preview all is looking fine but once you send the reply the link gets meshed up completely.
So I needed to remove the link.
But you will find a lot of used laptops on ebay.co.uk or similar sites.




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 Posted: Sat Nov 2nd, 2019 09:28 am
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Thanks for the advice Claus,

I do have an old laptop in a cupboard somewhere and I will check that out.





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 Posted: Sat Nov 2nd, 2019 12:56 pm
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" I've added a link in this post but it is too long for the forum software.
In preview all is looking fine but once you send the reply the link gets meshed up completely "



Huge ridiculously long links are displayed and titled as the poster wishes using the forum software

Members should always use the forum software link button as it makes links presentable


There is a simple function button in the Main Reply Window to deal with links and label them

It is the World Globe With Chain Link in front of it top row third from right


Using it allows your link to be pasted into the first popup box

After clicking on OK the second popup box allows you to appropriately name your link as you wish

After that clicking OK again takes you back to the Main Reply Window

The link now suitably named by you will have appeared where your cursor was when you clicked on the link icon


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 Posted: Sat Nov 2nd, 2019 02:53 pm
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Hi.

I used this button (World Globe With Chain Link) and in preview all looks fine.
But after sending the post the link was meshed up and no longer clickable.
 

Here is another try with the same link:

:td: [url=https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_dcat=177&_fsrp=1&RAM%2520Size=2%2520GB|3%2520GB|4%2520GB&_udhi=50&_sacat=0&_nkw=Laptop&_from=R40&rt=nc&Operating%2520System=Windows%25207&LH_ItemCondition=2500|3000]used laptop[/url] :td:


So if it now is working, I'll apologies.



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Hi Claus

The above link has been wrongly entered and is not valid in some way or other

Perhaps the brackets enclosing it and certainly url text should not be part of a valid link

Used Laptops  :dt:

Above a different and valid link has been entered using the World Globe With Chain Link button

:f:

Eddie


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So it turns out that I used a DelTang 61-2 receiver in the latest no-go locomotive conversion failure,
and I believe that I should have used a 62-2, if I wanted to utilize the magnetic pencil off-on switch.
Am I correct in that assumption ?

Secondly,
still no explanation for the fact that although I believe that I managed to bind successfully,
I had no success with regard to power.

But I aim to switch receivers and install the 62-2 receiver to see what happens.

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 Posted: Wed Nov 13th, 2019 08:14 am
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Ah!

I should have realized because I have some Rx-62',
no longer use the reed switch.

Rx-62's have 5 pad connections across the short edge:
2 for the motor,
one negative,
and 2 for the positive, one positive for normal battery connection and one for the reed switch.

Try your Rx-61 without the reed switch and see if it works,
a multimeter across the motor terminals maybe.




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