Freerails Home 
Home Search search Menu menu Not logged in - Login | Register
Freerails > Model Railroad Forums > Logging & Mining > Buckhorn Mine - 1:87 Scale

Freerails IS ACCEPTING new Members ... To join Freerails ... See how to Register as a Member in the 'Joining Freerails' Forum

Buckhorn Mine - 1:87 Scale
 Moderated by: . Page:  First Page Previous Page  1  2  3  4  Next Page Last Page  
New Topic Reply Printer Friendly
 Rating:  Rating
AuthorPost
 Posted: Fri Jun 5th, 2020 09:31 pm
  PMQuoteReply
11th Post
corv8
Registered
 

Joined: Tue Nov 13th, 2018
Location: Vienna, Austria
Posts: 283
Status: 
Offline
 
Next project, a boiler house.

My idea is to build it as a structure covered with corrugated sheeting,
have found a company in Colorado who sells great looking stuff,
however it seems my package is stuck somewhere in transit.

Today a club member showed up with two 3D-printed negatives,
and a small box full of paper sheets, which he had pressed between those negatives.
He uses some sort of double tissue paper??

Have to investigate, but For now, I have some material to tinker with.

Still need ideas how a nice boiler house could look like ...
Have downloaded mine pics for years,
but still wait for the "This-is-it" moment.

Any pics or links are appreciated.




____________________
Gerold
Back To Top

 Posted: Sat Jun 6th, 2020 12:56 am
  PMQuoteReply
12th Post
Ken C
Registered


Joined: Tue Jun 16th, 2015
Location:  Calgary, Alberta Canada
Posts: 951
Status: 
Offline
 
Gerold

From your write up idea's, in my "Round to it" cabinet,

I have an article from the May June 2002 Railroad Model Craftsman,

which had an article on the Belin Works Boiler house,

which may be the answer to your plan's.


It is a corrugated structure.




____________________
Ken Clark
GWN

Kaslo & Slocan Railway
International Navigation & Trading Co
Kootenay Railway & Navigation Co.
Back To Top

 Posted: Sat Jun 6th, 2020 08:30 am
  PMQuoteReply
13th Post
corv8
Registered
 

Joined: Tue Nov 13th, 2018
Location: Vienna, Austria
Posts: 283
Status: 
Offline
Ken C wrote: 
From your write up idea's, in my "Round to it" cabinet,

I have an article from the May June 2002 Railroad Model Craftsman,

which had an article on the Belin Works Boiler house,

which may be the answer to your plan's.


It is a corrugated structure.


Ken, thanks... any chance you could scan the article? 

I have most Craftsman... of course, there is a gap 1996 - 2004.




____________________
Gerold
Back To Top

 Posted: Sat Jun 6th, 2020 01:33 pm
  PMQuoteReply
14th Post
oztrainz
Super Moderator


Joined: Wed Apr 10th, 2013
Location: Unanderra, Australia
Posts: 982
Status: 
Offline
 
Hi Gerold,

First a couple of questions


Question 1 - What is the powerhouse providing?
Steam for a steam winch for the mine shaft?
Steam for air compressors to power underground rockdrills?
Steam to make electrical power?
Steam power for mineral processing after mining eg crushers?
All 4?

That set the size of the power house boilers.


Question 2 - What type of boiler do you want?
Grounded locomotive type?
Vertical boiler?
Cornish (single flue)?
Lancashire (dual flue)?


Ken and myself should be able to round up some examples,
photos or links to each type of boiler,
and some of the stuff on the end of the boiler that sucks the steam.




____________________
Regards,
John Garaty
Unanderra in oz
Back To Top

 Posted: Sat Jun 6th, 2020 06:27 pm
  PMQuoteReply
15th Post
corv8
Registered
 

Joined: Tue Nov 13th, 2018
Location: Vienna, Austria
Posts: 283
Status: 
Offline
John,

I have to admit I haven't (yet) a clear concept what this mine actually does.
The whole thing started as we had a unsightly area on the club layout,
with a diminutive mine building from the early stages of layout construction.

Some years ago another member started to build a stamp mill,
with several storage tracks on the lowest level (this is a multi level layout).

Being fascinated with mines forever,
I came up with the suggestion to build a mining complex on the top level.
Started first and later read literature on the subject...
as we have the stamp mill already, we need some sort of ore.
The ore train which will have to go from top to ground level as an extra,
will have to find his way between the scheduled trains!

Have downloaded plans of the Kennecott Mine in Alaska to gain some knowledge.
Very confusing, with all those buildings intermingled!

As the mine is situated somewhere in the Southwestern Desert,
it must be working independently of outside sources of energy,
the boiler house has to produce all energy.
So question one, answer is all 4.

Re boilers,
I think the rectangular industrial boilers available in resin and 3D should be suitable.
I guess thay are Lancashire boilers?
However, not sure if it is worth the effort to add interior to the boiler house,
as it will be above eye level and one would have to climb on a stair to look inside.
There will be an track to boilerhouse level, to supply coal or oil and machinery parts. 

I have found that most western mines had wood construction boilerhouses
(wonder how many burned?) and as the complex already has plenty of wooden buildings,
I would like to have something else for variety.
A boilerhouse would make sense, a earlier one may have been replaced after an disaster.

Here in this forum there are several pics of structures covered with (worn and rusty)
corrugated sheeting which look fascinating, however mostly these are small sheds.

What I also want to include, those tall steel smokestacks common in US mining,
here in Europe, we had mostly one big brick stack.

Hope this helps to give you an idea of my plans.

Thanks for your help !




____________________
Gerold
Back To Top

 Posted: Sat Jun 6th, 2020 07:23 pm
  PMQuoteReply
16th Post
Ken C
Registered


Joined: Tue Jun 16th, 2015
Location:  Calgary, Alberta Canada
Posts: 951
Status: 
Offline
 
Gerold

To keep you busy.
 
There is a wealth of photo's & plans (100+) for the Kennecott Mine,
on the "Historical American Building Survey" site,
enter Kennecott Mine Alaska in the search.

The first site which comes up has 8 pages of photo's and plans,
for both the powerhouse and mill,
lots of interior and exterior photos and plans of both.

The plans for the boiler's show they are considered to be O type water tube,
they were coal fired, operated a few of this style, along with A's and D's in my time,
although not coal fired.

The power plant, restored by the NPS, is a massive! structure,
the Berlin Boiler House would not do the mill justice!, way to small.

This should keep you busy for a while, just going through the information.

:bg:  :bg:




____________________
Ken Clark
GWN

Kaslo & Slocan Railway
International Navigation & Trading Co
Kootenay Railway & Navigation Co.
Back To Top

 Posted: Sat Jun 6th, 2020 08:25 pm
  PMQuoteReply
17th Post
corv8
Registered
 

Joined: Tue Nov 13th, 2018
Location: Vienna, Austria
Posts: 283
Status: 
Offline
 
Ken
 
Have been at this site already + have downloaded general plans,
trying to understand the "flow" of the ore through the structure.

Might simply use the (downsized) powerhouse concept,
with corrugated sheeting, instead of wood construction.

However, hadn't realized that there are pics of other mines too...
There ARE corrugated boiler houses.  Will study.

Thanks!




____________________
Gerold
Back To Top

 Posted: Sun Jun 7th, 2020 03:09 pm
  PMQuoteReply
18th Post
oztrainz
Super Moderator


Joined: Wed Apr 10th, 2013
Location: Unanderra, Australia
Posts: 982
Status: 
Offline
 
Hi Gerold,

The powerhouse at Corrimal was all corrugated iron covered.
It's the big building with the stack behind elevated gantry in the background, 
in the photo labelled Corrimal Bagownie Pit Top.

This had 3 Cornish boilers and one locomotive type boiler under that roof.
like these three.

For an idea of size, have a look at the pencilled in dimensions.
This link shows that there was more under the roof than just the boilers.

If you are after a way to make electricity from steam without going to turbines,
have a look at a triple expansion steam engine.


  


And generator attached to it.





At Zeehan, this provided electrical power for a silver/lead/zinc mine and the town. 
The main switchboard is in the background. 

Also from Zeehan in Tasmania is this model of a non-ferrous mineral processing plant.
This uses gravity to move stuff to the next part of the extraction process.





The lower end of the stamp mill is at top left.

I hope that this might give you some idea,
of what might be under the roof of the mine from next to the shaft. 
 



____________________
Regards,
John Garaty
Unanderra in oz
Back To Top

 Posted: Sun Jun 7th, 2020 09:09 pm
  PMQuoteReply
19th Post
Ken C
Registered


Joined: Tue Jun 16th, 2015
Location:  Calgary, Alberta Canada
Posts: 951
Status: 
Offline

Gerold

Closest I could come up with,
for a elevation of the Boilers used at the Kennecott Mine, based on the plans.

Looking at the flow sheet for the mill (circa 1938) and equipment listing,
not sure how long it would take to install an interior,
even if kit's were available for the equipment.



John

Along with the Museum in Zeehan,
my other place to visit is the Tin Mine Museum in Darby,
never have managed to make it down to the hydro plant at Waratah (weather).
Did tour the Lake Margaret Hydro plant.

Which remind's me I have to order Ross Mainwarring's new book,
on the Mt Lyell mine and mill.




____________________
Ken Clark
GWN

Kaslo & Slocan Railway
International Navigation & Trading Co
Kootenay Railway & Navigation Co.
Back To Top

 Posted: Wed Jun 10th, 2020 06:14 am
  PMQuoteReply
20th Post
corv8
Registered
 

Joined: Tue Nov 13th, 2018
Location: Vienna, Austria
Posts: 283
Status: 
Offline

Did some reading on the "Historical American Building Survey" site,
and found some more views of the Kennecott power house I previously have overlooked.
Looks rather busy with the different rooflines.

Maybe I simple adapt the design and cover it with tin sheeting.
It might be an older structure upgraded some time?
Or, I might model it when workers are just halfway in the progress of rebuilding it?


The triple expansion engine looks most fascinating,
wonder if ship modelers have a suitable model available.

This thing is large enough it might be visible,
even when the boiler house is in a raised position.




____________________
Gerold
Back To Top


 Current time is 09:09 pm
Page:  First Page Previous Page  1  2  3  4  Next Page Last Page  

Freerails > Model Railroad Forums > Logging & Mining > Buckhorn Mine - 1:87 Scale
Top



UltraBB 1.172 Copyright © 2007-2016 Data 1 Systems