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 Posted: Sun Dec 1st, 2019 03:49 pm
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I'm building a shelf style On30 layout with hand laid unpowered track.  I'll be using Stanton's S-Cab and have two Eco-200 starter kits with hand held throttles, Eco-200 decoders and receivers.  Battery power is BPS-v4 with 2P-850 which gives 850 mAh with 2 parallel batteries.  I also got some speakers, a wand, a charging power supply and some other stuff.  In addition to that I have the parts to set up two more locos but no additional throttles and will eventually have all locos RF controlled and battery powered with sound.  I'm currently finishing up a four stall roundhouse and plan to set up the four stall tracks and one siding beside the roundhouse as charging tracks.  Just reading the Stanton web site it sounds like the BPS will allow these tracks to always be powered but I'm thinking I should have them wired through a selector switch so only one track is powered at a time to prevent more than one loco loading down the charger.  I'm just now laying rail and still need to install the S-Cab system in the locos but thought I'd do a thread here to share my experience.  I wrote to Neil Stanton today to verify my plans for charging through the tracks.  Seems pretty straight forward with his system.  
I have one question for now.  I was planning to use only two throttles for six locos, one gas/electric rail bus, and a gas engine rail truck.  The cost of each throttle is $140 and I'm thinking I could save big bucks by sharing them.  The room for my layout is small, 11' X 12', and I don't plan to have more than two operators.  More likely just me most of the time.  Any thoughts on sharing throttles between multiple locos?
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Welcome to the growing battery powered RC ranks. I've been involved with this mode for over three years. I have converted conventional power OGauge locos to battery power and have used three different RC systems employing both hand held remotes and smart device apps. All worked well. As a rule, I would always recommend that the track layout be wired for conventional operation with whatever block control system you require. Simultaneous multiple engine running is more easily accomplished with RC, but there are block control setups that will also allow this variation.
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I use Deltang exclusively.  I have two throttles which can operate up to 12 powered locos each, albeit one at a time.
Sharing locos to one throttle is fine for shunting and diorama work. As long you control only one at a time, the other locos may be powered.  The Deltang Selecta feature allows this, but you have to buy the RX with the Select featured programmed to 'ON'
If you want to run a large layout to time-table then each loco will require its own throttle.



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You can also have up to 12 locos controlled by a number of throttles with control passing between throttles. This is what the Selecta '3 flash' setting was designed for. It can also be used for a true consist where 2 locos can operate independently or as a pair but I think this is restricted to one consist per transmitter and takes up 3 Selecta slots.



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I don't know if half you RC lot read peoples forum posts properly or not?
But the thread is said by the poster to be about constructing an S-Cab RC system.
You are not very likely to find a Deltang selecta switch mounted on one of those throttles!

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Dave, Rod, Bob - Thanks for the helpful information.  My operation requirements are pretty basic and it's good to know I can get by with just the two throttles.
Bob - I was going to dead rail to get away from powered track and all the headaches that go with it.  What would be the advantages of having powered track ("conventional operation") with battery powered locos?  My layout and the room it's in are small and I don't foresee guests coming to play with their own unpowered locos.  Is there something here I'm missing?
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Tom - Does the Stanton system have a way of programming an individual throttle to more than one receiver??

If not, then I fail to understand how two throttles could operate more than just two locomotives................. unless you are going to erase the previous programming each time and then recalibrate to the new locomotive.

Please understand that I have absolutely no experience with the Stanton system.

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Can you have more than 1 locomotive paired with the transmitter? If so then switching locos off and on would work. If the communications are unidirectional maybe you could even have a consist.



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Rick and Dave,

S-Cab is a little different from Deltang-type RC. Deltang is more like model aviation and vehicle RC where the RC is also the "decoder".

S-Cab is more like DCC. It uses a DCC decoder to handle many functions (like loco address) so it is more like DCC than Deltang. The BPS is the battery circuit that provides power and charging for the battery. It is connected to a receiver that converts the RC to standard DCC and sends the DCC to a decoder. According to the S-Cab web site, one transmitter can control 15 locos. Since it is really wireless DCC, the locos work just like on a DCC layout. It is a similar concept to the older TAM Valley RC setup except it doesn't require a DCC command station.

Of all of the RC setups I have investigated, I think S-Cab has the most features and is a complete solution. My only negatives are the cost and I would rather see the receiver either include the DCC decoder functions or have the receiver work with any (or at least most) DCC decoders.

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 Posted: Mon Dec 2nd, 2019 04:41 pm
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davecttr wrote:
Can you have more than 1 locomotive paired with the transmitter? If so then switching locos off and on would work. If the communications are unidirectional maybe you could even have a consist.


Dave,

Your comment about a consist was interesting. It does not appear that is possible with S-Cab (although there are probably work-arounds--like shared addresses).

The multiple locos is really a memory recall solution. It stores up to 15 "binds" during a session that you can cycle through. Very similar to Deltang's Selecta.

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