Freerails Home 
Home Search search Menu menu Not logged in - Login | Register
Freerails > Model Railroad Forums > Railcars Railtrucks & Critters > Southern 'Fairbanks Morse' Railcar - 1:87 Scale

Freerails IS ACCEPTING new Members ... To join Freerails ... See how to Register as a Member in the 'Joining Freerails' Forum

Southern 'Fairbanks Morse' Railcar - 1:87 Scale
 Moderated by: . Page:    1  2  Next Page Last Page  
New Topic Reply Printer Friendly
 Rating:  Rating
AuthorPost
 Posted: Sun Aug 2nd, 2020 01:07 pm
  PMQuoteReply
1st Post
corv8
Registered
 

Joined: Tue Nov 13th, 2018
Location: Vienna, Austria
Posts: 423
Status: 
Online

 
Some time ago I noticed a model of the weird Southern F-M railcar on Shapeways.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FM_OP800

(it had an 5 axle wheel arrangement when built, later converted to six axles) 


Then found it was printed in 1:160 ! 





Contacted the designer, he agreed to convert the body to 1:87 ...
not for public sale, but an special issue only for me.

Cost ~ €200 as it was large
(came in two parts as it wasn't possible to print it in one piece)
and maybe was thicker than necessary, because it was scaled up from N scale. 

When I unpacked it, I was shocked to see,
that most of the body had vertical raised stripes wherever it has rivets.
Neither the designer nor I knew why.... 
Later I got an explanation from another designer.


I was offered to return it for a refund,
however I decided to keep it in the vague hope to find a fix.

Maybe sand it smooth? Apply Archer rivets (thousands)
so it rested in an old Athearn box for a long time.


Two months ago I made up my mind to try something.
Washed it with brake cleaner, then sprayed it with filler.

Checked surface... better.
Sprayed again.

Tried to sand the empty areas without damaging rivets.
Found that the front end was covered with overspray, looking like HO grass,
or the fur of a little animal.... impossible to remove this mess.
Sanded the front smooth, rivets gone.


Now divided the body in several sections with masking tape,
laid it on a table and sprayed the upper surface only, so the filler would not run down,
let dry, then masked the next, sprayed again. 

Outcome was so-so, but now I hope I may use it with some dull paint and heavy weathering
(the prototype looked very sad when it was used for MOW service in its last days)










Yesterday I pulled an envelope with various sets of Archer rivets from the decal box,
and started to apply them to the bald front end...

Found that the ultra thin decal foil had deteriorated,
so I mostly had to apply four or five rivets at a time, sometimes only one!
as it was impossible to transfer longer rows to the body.

That's how it looks right now:  
 




Still mulling how to paint it....

Don't want to have an exact model of a Southern Railcar,
but maybe will adapt the scheme with other colors for my own line.




____________________
Gerold
Back To Top

 Posted: Mon Aug 3rd, 2020 12:40 am
  PMQuoteReply
2nd Post
Michael M
Registered


Joined: Thu Jan 26th, 2017
Location: San Bernardino, California USA
Posts: 1881
Status: 
Offline
What a project!

You have a lot more patience than I do.

What kind of drive are you thinking of using?



____________________
Michael
-------
Nye, Inyo & Esmeralda Railroad

https://www.flickr.com/photos/183715370@N03/albums/72157710477887657/
Back To Top

 Posted: Mon Aug 3rd, 2020 05:43 am
  PMQuoteReply
3rd Post
corv8
Registered
 

Joined: Tue Nov 13th, 2018
Location: Vienna, Austria
Posts: 423
Status: 
Online
Michael M wrote:
What a project!

You have a lot more patience than I do.

What kind of drive are you thinking of using?


Michael,

Consider this an easy one,
as I have at least a complete body to work on.... 

The real tough ones start at zero...
Maybe with a rubber mold!


I think I will power the rear truck only,
so I may use a plain six wheel Central Valley heavyweight passenger truck up front.

Not quite sure what this thing had in the rear,
I have many pictures of those cars on file, but none that shows the rear truck in detail.

It may be a smaller adaption of a truck like the Baldwin AS-616 rode on,
or maybe a tender truck?

Many trucks of small electric locomotives were in fact tender trucks,
with electric motors attached underneath.

So this would make sense.




____________________
Gerold
Back To Top

 Posted: Sun Oct 25th, 2020 07:11 pm
  PMQuoteReply
4th Post
corv8
Registered
 

Joined: Tue Nov 13th, 2018
Location: Vienna, Austria
Posts: 423
Status: 
Online
 
Working on the missing rivets of the roof panels.

Our local rivet manufacturer couldn't supply the required size,
so have to make do with the old Archer rivets.





Right part has been done last week and protected with a coat of silver paint,
as I was afraid I might lose some rivets when handling.




____________________
Gerold
Back To Top

 Posted: Sun Feb 14th, 2021 02:54 pm
  PMQuoteReply
5th Post
corv8
Registered
 

Joined: Tue Nov 13th, 2018
Location: Vienna, Austria
Posts: 423
Status: 
Online
 
Did a little painting...  

Also fabricated a brass floor.

But I am still looking for a suitable rear power truck.







____________________
Gerold
Back To Top

 Posted: Sun Feb 14th, 2021 09:28 pm
  PMQuoteReply
6th Post
2foot6
Registered


Joined: Sun Oct 20th, 2013
Location: Near Melbourne Victoria, Australia
Posts: 657
Status: 
Online
 
Looking great Gerold.


I have been following your progress with interest,

and looking forward to seeing the finished railcar.  :2t:


....Peter




____________________
I aspire to inspire before I expire.
Back To Top

 Posted: Tue Apr 20th, 2021 08:18 pm
  PMQuoteReply
7th Post
corv8
Registered
 

Joined: Tue Nov 13th, 2018
Location: Vienna, Austria
Posts: 423
Status: 
Online
 
Some progress... 


After mulling for months about a correct rear truck for this thing, 
I decided to make a shortcut, and use an Athearn Train Master truck... 

It is an FM railcar, so it's not completely wrong.

Had an broken Train Master frame too,
which I glued to a brass floor.


Up front,
it got a Central Valley heavyweight passenger truck,
100% correct.


However, from some angles it looks awful...
Especially the cab area, with the patched up rivets, isn't great. 

Hope I can fix this somehow.

I think if I touch up the lousy paint job, and add etched grilles,
it might help.







____________________
Gerold
Back To Top

 Posted: Wed Apr 21st, 2021 07:53 am
  PMQuoteReply
8th Post
Kitbash0n30
Registered


Joined: Mon Dec 10th, 2012
Location: Boonville, Missouri USA
Posts: 827
Status: 
Offline
 
Oh man,

sometimes the hobby adventure goes well,

and sometimes it can be an epic struggle.





____________________
See y'all later, Forrest.
Screw the rivets, I'm building for atmosphere
Back To Top

 Posted: Sun May 9th, 2021 07:51 pm
  PMQuoteReply
9th Post
corv8
Registered
 

Joined: Tue Nov 13th, 2018
Location: Vienna, Austria
Posts: 423
Status: 
Online
Kitbash0n30 wrote:  
Oh man,

and sometimes it can be an epic struggle.


Hmmm...  what a fitting word...


She is, finished...  or, I have enough. 
Could still work for days on her but it won't ever get a foreground model...  

She runs now ok with half an Athearn Train Master drive,
have added various details and California Pacific lettering,
an additional Mars light... 
Wire screens for the radiators (where have I placed my fans ??)

???

To add insult to injury,
Shapeways has now released a nice body of an similar railcar,
most likely without the rivet mess up. 

Maybe I give it another try.







____________________
Gerold
Back To Top

 Posted: Tue May 11th, 2021 08:39 pm
  PMQuoteReply
10th Post
Lee B
Registered


Joined: Tue Dec 9th, 2014
Location: The Pacific NW, By Way Of The Deep South, USA
Posts: 1260
Status: 
Offline
 
Wow, talk about a silk purse from a sow's ear!

Looks great, especially the colors.






____________________
-Lee
Commanding Officer, 796th Railway Operating Battalion (in On30 gauge), operating on the Stoney Creek branch of the ET&WNC RR

Photos of my layout: https://www.flickr.com/photos/53587910@N05/albums/72157668176638961
Back To Top


 Current time is 01:45 pm
Page:    1  2  Next Page Last Page  

Freerails > Model Railroad Forums > Railcars Railtrucks & Critters > Southern 'Fairbanks Morse' Railcar - 1:87 Scale
Top



UltraBB 1.172 Copyright © 2007-2016 Data 1 Systems