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 Posted: Tue Apr 6th, 2021 04:30 pm
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When Simpson logging's RR was still running in the Shelton, WA area,
they didn't have anything like that.

Those kinds of larger speeders and trailers,
seemed to be somewhat common north of the BC border, though.

Once the era of logging camps ended, I guess that also ended the era,
of second hand passenger cars used to move loggers into/out of the mountains.

These Canuck speeders look like shop crews got a couple of old Airstream RVs,
and went nuts on them.

Imagine someone getting one of these sets second hand,
and taking it to NARCOA speeder meets.

You could turn one into an actual rail-mounted RV if you wanted to...




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Hi Lee

Simpson used a similar Gibson speeder at Camp Grisdale,
and as the shop switcher there.

John Henderson sent me a few photos of it,
and it was in use there until Grisdale closed in 1985.

A photo is attached.

By the time I saw it in 1999 it had been heavily rebuilt,
with most of the superstructure removed.

I think it is fair to say US loggers used similar large speeders from Gibson or Skagit,
but often put their own bodies on them, or reconstructed them at some stage.

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In 1999 Weyerhaeuser were using the attached large speeder,
at the site of Headquarters on the Longview branch.

Not sure who was the builder and neither was John H,
who was the expert on these things.

Alan





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I'll be darned, I had no idea Simpson had one of those!








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Lee.

This is what it looked like in 1999.

Very different.

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" They were built to standards ... "  L:

" ... got a couple of old Airstream RVs and went nuts on them "  L:


:old dude:  STANDARDS ! ... OLD AIRSTREAMS !



Before " standards " & " Airstream RVs " ...

( possibly even before the discovery of aluminium ! )  ;)

... " unfortunate loggers "  W :shocked: :shocked: D  " ride to their doom in " ... TIMBER !  :P





Looks like a leaky gas tank & the whole thing could be an inferno in seconds !  :mex:

Might get a splinter or two in a wreck as well !  :f:


:java::moose: :dt:


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Si. wrote:  
... " unfortunate loggers "  W :shocked: :shocked: D  " ride to their doom in " ... TIMBER !  :P





Oh, but they aren't risking doom, it is No.7,
it's their lucky speeder!

Thanks for the photo,
I would never have imagined such a thing as this existed.

It is so tremendously odd,  L:
that if my health were better I would already have a model in progress.  :)

And what size are those tiny little wheels ?
They can't be much more than 15 to 18 inches diameter.




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Well, let's face it, logging was never a safe occupation.

Probably more men died in the forests logging giant stands you'd find near Shelton or up on Vancouver Island,
than were killed on the railroads in the same region in the same timeframe(s).





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In spite of the largely humorous comments in this thread that the speeders etc.
were dangerous and thrown together by the mill blacksmith from old bus parts,
most of this is largely untrue.

By the 1940s there were State and Federal safety rules governing speeders and transport of crew.
This did not mean logging or logging railroads were/are without dangers, and accidents happen,
but a speeder was certainly safer and more comfortable than riding a flat car.

Gibson and Skagit built a range of speeders “built for loggers use – to stand loggers abuse”,
and these were sometimes modified by the larger company shops.
This included adding a body of varying states of beauty.

The speeder in the last post probably started as a Skagit MAC 6-40 built with a high cab,
and possibly with just as a flat body as this Schafer version.
(although this does not have the high cab)

Alan





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Given the climate in the woods, the crew needed some protection from the elements,
and most operators had fully enclosed speeders for crew transport.

Speeder #7 is probably one such,
although the superstructure appears more roomy than most.

A more typical version is the attached Rayonier speeder, which is a Skagit.
The family likeness with #7 is I think apparent.

Alan





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