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Bill Fornshell
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Mike said:
"If they are not putting the original acf hall scott motor in the McKeen, then they are not restoring it, they are hot rodding it. May as well leave the motor out and just pull it around for tourista stuff with a small diesel switcher."
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Mike, this is one of those times when you don't know what the Thong you are talking about. The original #22 V&T Motor Car had the standard McKeen gas motor / front truck. The Hall Scott what ever were much later. None of the original Motor / Truck units survived over time. Remember WW II and all the scrape drives. They have done what they could. I was told it will look like the original from the outside when they are finished.
Works for me.Last edited on Mon Feb 9th, 2009 01:33 am by Bill Fornshell
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seeing as how i am not a McKeen expert nor do i want to be. It sounded to me from past postings like these things were hall scott equipted as i remember it was posted............but seems there are multiple varieties of these things. ?
So, if the motor was yanked out of this V & T one for ww2 scrap drive...question....what was put in here to motivate it until it was parked? And when was it parked. ??
What other info do we need to know to be up to date.
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Herb Kephart
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Mike-
I am reasonably sure if ANY of the original Mckeen power trucks had survived they would have done everything that they could to get it back in action. The fact is that the McKeen truck/engine had a lot of problems and none survive. should the Smithsonian junk the Wright flyer because it has the engine from Bergdolls Wright plane?
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Is it the same motor type ?
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What a cherry loooking piece of work ! Very nice !
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| Posted: Tue Feb 10th, 2009 01:36 am |
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madmike3434
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Bob Hitchcock wrote: What a cherry loooking piece of work ! Very nice !
your specifically referring toooooooooo ?? mike
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| Posted: Tue Feb 10th, 2009 02:38 am |
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Herb Kephart
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Mike-
Same type, just a few years later "production" one. The original plane was cannibalized by the Wrights, to make following experiments. Years later, they scraped up all the old parts that they could find, and used them to "recreate" the plane, and sent the result to the Science Museum in England, because they were mad that the Smithsonian wanted to give Langley credit as the first. The plane came back to the US and went to the Smithsonian after WW2, only after the Wright heirs extorted an agreement from the Smithsonian, that even if other evidence came to light the question of the Wrights being the first would be supported by the Smithsonian
Read "History by Contract" O'Dwyer & Randolph
Sorry, Hotshot, I know that this is off railroad topic.
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| Posted: Tue Feb 10th, 2009 02:56 am |
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Bill Fornshell
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It is really to bad that the person who starts a thread can't delete replies.
If I could Mike, I would delete you out of here.
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| Posted: Tue Feb 10th, 2009 03:09 am |
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Well, since that McKeen has been "degraded" by the use of a different motor, I suppose most of my locomotives are unworthy also. Most have Sagami motors and my Garratt has 2 motors from an old word processor. It is such a shame that I followed the examples set forth by the McKeen's restorers. I will just have to be content with my poor stable but realize that there are many others in the same situation. Shame on all of us for our transgressions. On the flip side, the McKeen restorers did a great job and even if the car is "substandard"...at least it IS RUNNING and looks good. There are many pieces of old equipment with their original motors just sitting in a park rusting away. Maybe that's what it is all about-if it can't be "pure", then it must be destroyed! Hmmm...didn't Uncle Adolph promote that "belief"
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