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 Posted: Wed Apr 19th, 2017 09:16 am
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Woodie,

Any close up photos of that water car of yours? 

I'm slowing (very slowly) building a small one for my line, and would like to get an idea of how you put yours together. 

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 Posted: Wed Apr 19th, 2017 06:31 pm
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Michael, the orange (?) water car was built about 20 years ago.
I believe that I built it from cookie pan aluminum with rivets punched in and a wooden frame.
I will take a photo in a little bit & post it.
I rarely take photos of "in progress" work, I just get going and don't spend the time with photos.

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OK, here are both sides of Mogollon Railway (the original On20 version) water car #14.
This car and the others, like the ore car, ride on PSC HOn3 trucks which work well in On20 to replicate Gilpin Tramway trucks.
There are patches and dents and bent handrails, some caused by being thrown in a box for 10 years or so.
And I see that the brakewheel is missing also, how does that car keep from rolling down the grade?

Hope this helps.




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And here is a 1:35n2 water car, a somewhat "faithful" copy of Gilpin Tram's water car.

This one was made from the aluminum cookie pan material but all the rivets were done with the "Kephart-O-Matic" rivet maker...
not to be confused with rivet counters (get a rope!).




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Since I will be moving soon and the SC narrow gauge will be dismantled to rise again (the Phoenix rises again many times),
I have enjoyed running the little Gila Tram while I work on other projects.

Here are a couple of shots in a kind of "old timey" color.










The top photo shows the GT's motive power at the Gila, AZ station.
Lower shot is #4 about to leave after taking on coal.
#4's cab has been rebuilt and is now a "plantation" style job, similar to 0-4-4t's cab.

I have also thought about enlarging the tram after the move, who knows what will happen next?




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I have also thought about enlarging the tram after the move

He He   saw that one coming...
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Woodie,

Moving is such a pain.  You have my sympathies. 
I'm on my 4th home and have been here just over 12 years...the longest time I have ever spent in one place! 

If you're like me, you probably have boxes of goodies stored in the garage. 
I'll bet you'll find stuff that you've completely forgotten about (I have).




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  I'll bet you'll find stuff that you've completely forgotten about (I have).

Ditto...
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Well then, after all this time, I realized that maybe an "update" might be OK.
 
The little Gila Tram has been a good thing, not just for me, but for my friend Joe.
Joe B. was a prolific builder and was working on a beautiful HOn30 layout in his little "house out back".
We used to hang out and visit the local "hobby shops" to either buy stuff or just to stir up trouble...
Joe was into r/c On30 also and we loved to watch "non believers" transfixed while watching our locomotives run across concrete floors, etc.

Joe got very ill and couldn't work on his beloved layout any more, and I could tell that he wanted/needed to at least watch a train run.
So I gave him the Gila Tram and it's pokey little Shay and cars.
He could sit and watch them run around and around for hours, which he did.
About a year after that, Joe went on to run trains in a better place,
and it took a long time to get over this, if one ever gets over someone close leaving this realm.
Soon after, his wife and daughter called me and wanted to bring the Gila back "home".
In a couple of weeks, the GT was back and I could watch it once again.
 
Now, here's where the story gets the update.
Earlier in this thread, my friend Jim (Mopman) commented that he never cleans his DC powered layout's track, running trains does the job.
I know that Joe never cleaned the Gila's track, and when I got it back, I hooked it up to see if anything still worked.
The little Shay is now over 20 years old and has many, many NON SCALE miles on her.
The layout started up and the train rolled around like it always has.
Now, almost 2 years later, I run the train maybe 2 or 3 times a week and have NEVER cleaned the track since it's return.

What does this all mean?
NEVER CLEAN YOUR TRACK, JUST RUN A TRAIN OFTEN!

Like my 35n2 r/c layout, no track is harmed by abrasive pads...I don't even own a Brite Boy.

So, track stays clean (maybe Joe is watching over it) and I enjoy watching the train and remembering that my old friend got to enjoy it also.
How's that for an "update"!

Woodie

BTW, the Gila Tram is running around as I write this...




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"What does this all mean?

NEVER CLEAN YOUR TRACK, JUST RUN A TRAIN OFTEN!"


I've heard that from other modellers too.

But I have found that on a shunting / switching layout,
especially a small one running DCC,
sometimes the track has to be cleaned with  'the hand from the sky',
even if used fairly regularly.

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