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pipopak
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Take a look at this picture taken at a Cuban wharf in 1904.

There are hardly two wood pieces the same size !

http://www.shorpy.com/node/10326?size=_original



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Great shot.

What a mess.

Went into the Shorpy Site,
and there is some even greater stuff there.


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Love those pictures.

Detail is GREAT.



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You can spend hours at Shorpy !

:old dude:

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What I like most about the Site is that it shows you how things were THEN.
I personally find most (if not all) layouts set in that era, grossly OVER weathered !

If you are modeling, say, 1920s, everything built that year was NEW,
and everything else was maintained.

But you see any layout set in 1920, and trains are rolling wrecks,
structures are falling apart, and cars are junkyard rejects.

While the craftsmanship is superb,
I find it hardly realistic.


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Jose

Got to agree with you on that one.

I myself fell into that trap.

I originally liked the weathering, and still do,
but now I look at it differently.

I do have things
that look as if no one cared what they looked liked
and never cleaned anything up.

I see great things done, and then you look closer,
and you see weathered wood inside buildings, in use,
with wood grain that looks like scenes from the Canyonlands.

Just my opinion,
and you know what they say about opinions and toilet paper.

Clif K


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Jose.

I have to agree also.

I am sometimes struck by the success of
heavily weathered & rundown models, in competitions.

Whilst the well cared for look in models,
is mostly overlooked as winners.


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I don't really worry about weathering,
Mother Nature does that for me quite well.

As for junky & funky in the '20s,
I agree, things were relatively new then.

That's why I have "pushed" my layout into 1950 or so,
due to my love for that '49 Merc.

And I was given a nice model of a 1950 MGTD,
and being an MG nut, I had to put it on the layout also.

Now, when I find a nice '56 Chebby...

Woodie


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Got to agree with Jose, Clif and Rod.

Too much weathering is overdone, IMO.


Besides, the twenties were a time

when equipment was taken care of,

more than it is today.

:old dude:

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Well, this is a pleasant change,
discussing modeling 'the norm'.

It seems that modeling too often leans toward
the gimmicky exaggerated worn out look.

Weathered, but maintained as in ordinary everyday use,
is (for me) more appealing.

Any railroad with the sort of broken down,
and downright dangerous equipment,
often seen on some model railroads,
would soon be out of business.

Logging is a classic example,
where the true condition of equipment is overlooked (or ignored)
in favour of the 'cute' caricture, of the shoe-string operation.

Companies then, as now, realised you can't turn a profit,
if your equipment keeps breaking all the time.


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The only thing I know of

that can't be weathered too much

is a SP diesel.


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Bring on the paint, airbrush, chalks,

water colours, oils, powders, and dirty fingers.


I love the techniques, and damn the reality !

Cheers Kim


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Agree.


A lot of narrow gauge stuff

ends up looking like the last train out of Baghdad.


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On the Shorpy.com Site, there is a pic.
search "Homeward Bound 1938"

I don't know if you would call it
over the top weathering, or just flat used up.

If you look at the details in the photo,
like the guys shoes (toe exposed)
socks (pinned to his pants)
the truck bed wired together,
or the parking block behind the tire...
the whole scene is just flat used up and worn out.

It could be a good shot for Woodies layout.
From the look on his face,
all looks bad but that's all he has got.

Makes me glad I'm where I'm at.

Clif K


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Sounds like a picture

the great Walker Evans,

government photographer,

was taking during the 1936-38 era.



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Mike

If you have not seen it,
it is well worth a look.

A person could spend entirely too much time
on the Site, cruising through the subjects.

Clif K


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Interesting picture,

while I was there, at Shorpy,

I searched Walker Evans,

and looked at a bunch of his photos.



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If you do a search at Shorpy, just for railroad,

you will find a lifetime of detail ideas...


Unweathered !


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Why isn't there an example of  'overdone'  and  'just right' ?

???  ???

Confused, Bobby !


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This is not overdone !





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Very nice. 

It must have been a long job though ! 


;)


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Thanks Eddie !

I changed doors, radiator inlets, clean air section inlets,
and lots of things on the other side.

All were done to correct the engine to match the number.


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" What I like most about the Site is that it shows you how things were THEN.
I personally find most (if not all) layouts set in that era, grossly OVER weathered !

If you are modeling, say, 1920s, everything built that year was NEW,
and everything else was maintained.

But you see any layout set in 1920, and trains are rolling wrecks,
structures are falling apart, and cars are junkyard rejects.

While the craftsmanship is superb,
I find it hardly realistic "

:old dude:

No mention of NAILHOLES !

(I'm gonna hide under my desk now !)

:P

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I hope your desk has armour protection.


:)

.............Peter.



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Be aware that many of the vintage photos

show the not-so-well-to-do in their surroundings.





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