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Heath
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Mike, here's a photo of an On18 critter I'm trying to bash. (It's my first diesel and I'm not sure what I'm doing.)
Starting on the cab with 20 thou styrene. I thought you'd like to see the rivet technique on a loco. Sorry I only have one side complete.
p.s. Thanks to all the builders out there who do know what they are doing. This project would never have been started without you.
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mwiz64
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Looks pretty darn nice, Heath. Ill have to go back and review that technique and give it a try on the next itteration of my 1:35 scale tank car. Im not too proud of the one I did the first time around.
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Tim Rose wrote:
"Well, a decomposing body of a rivet counter has been discovered under the Pinos Altos creek bridge on the Mogollon Railway. The sheriff is "investigating", cause could be a chupacabra attack or the ghost of John Allen.
Update at 11:24....
I've read it several times and it get funner each time!
Regards, Bobby
Boudreaux"
Hahahaha....too damn funny!! 
{I should add that I think you guys that DO count rivets are doing some mighty fine work....much better than anything I could do....but I love a humorous well placed comment.}
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mwiz64
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Heath,
That critter is looking great!
Let me ask a question as it pertains to the subject of this thread. What are the rivets suppose to be holding together? Is it the sheeting being held to the interior frame? In scale size, how big are those rivets? Are they the 3/4" size ones like in your earlier post? Would you imagine that many rivets that size would be necessary to hold those sheets to the frame? Maybe it is prototypical to use a bunch of large rivets but it seems like overkill to me. And Heath, I'm not trying to be critical of your work. It looks great to me. But rather, I'm trying to understand about the use of rivets.Last edited on 28 Feb 2013 03:12 pm by mwiz64
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I think after Ive spent some time looking at critters and such.... Full scale ones, most of my stuff is going to look welded, as Woodie recommended above. Only sparingly, will I use large rivets or bolts and then only on the largest of pieces. That's for one big reason, I don't like doing rivets and I think I can justify their absence on most of my stuff. Where I can't, well ill just dig in and make them.
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Heath
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Woodie, you won. Ha ha
Mike, if you look closely at the driver side photo at the bottom in front of the door, I forgot to emboss the rivets. I'm now thinking that welding a cab might not be a bad idea also. Although trying to fix my mistake might be a fun challenge too. All in good fun.
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W C Greene
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I like the riveted look and have the stinkin' things on my steam locos but my dismal needed to be smooth and rounded-rounded to the ground. However, I like your rivets and when that critter is painted, it will be very cool. Make another loco with welded cab then they would look very cool next to each other. I give it a 10 and you can dance to it!
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mwiz64
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I like the riveted looking cab too and I like it even better when someone besides myself is doing the riveting. I have to get back to the bench and make some more models of my own to put up for scrutiny here at Free rails.
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I like the riveted looking cab too and I like it even better when someone besides myself is doing the riveting. I have to get back to the bench and make some more models of my own to put up for scrutiny here at Free rails.
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I tend to clash with rivet counters. I do like the detail when they are protruding like the proverbial on the prototype but I use them "suggestively" rather that an outstanding feature that has to be counted. I found a source on ebay of rivet details in plastic, not only are there rivets there are nuts with washers, bolts etc. A major range of sizes too
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To me there are two kinds of "rivet counters". One is the guy who simply likes to build his own models as accurately as possible. Nothing wrong with that!
The other is the kind everyone hates, the kind that gives "rivet counting" a bad name. This is the guy who looks for nits to pick in other people's work. I'm not talking about constructive criticism, either. More like, you show him a museum quality model built completely from scratch that took thousands of hours, and he insists that "it's not a very accurate model because there should be 1438 rivets on a tender of this type. You're short two rivets." Or the drivers are a half scale inch too large, etc. etc.
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Ray Dunakin wrote:
To me there are two kinds of "rivet counters". One is the guy who simply likes to build his own models as accurately as possible. Nothing wrong with that!
The other is the kind everyone hates, the kind that gives "rivet counting" a bad name. This is the guy who looks for nits to pick in other people's work. I'm not talking about constructive criticism, either. More like, you show him a museum quality model built completely from scratch that took thousands of hours, and he insists that "it's not a very accurate model because there should be 1438 rivets on a tender of this type. You're short two rivets." Or the drivers are a half scale inch too large, etc. etc.
Yeah the second type are the ones who get up my nose. Its curious too they only ever critisise but can never meet their own exacting standards.....
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I've said it before, and I'll say it again. I count rivets, but I never, and I mean never criticize anyone else's work. But having said that, I know a
real good modeler who never has anything nice to say about anyone's work other than his own.
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/53243414@N00/Si. wrote:
1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10...11...12...13...
Oh s%£* ... THE DOOR-BELL !!!
Arh !...
...I LOST COUNT !!!
Si.
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I have an 'unfinished' 1/2" scale model of WSLCo tank #2...
...guess why...
( no idea how many it's supposed to have BTW ! )[/quote
http://www.flickr.com/photos/53243414@N00/ A few of my rivet projects.
Remember when you put someone down that has skills, it no different
Than that person putting you down. Think about it.
Bobby the proud old rivet counter.
Hey it's fun! You know the old saying, don't knock it until you try it.
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Hi Bobby
Not sure I'm gettin' you on that quote...?
It can be fun...
...it does perhaps need 'skill'...
...but most of all, it needs 'time' !
Not sure about all the, this person / that person stuff...
...I for one, certainly don't 'knock' anything, or anyone...
...one day the 1/2" WSLCo model, with  ? rivets...
...might be finished !
BINGO !
Certainly a challenge...
...particularly for me, time-wise.
Cheers
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Sounds good to me!
Bobby
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