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 Posted: Thu Mar 31st, 2016 09:49 am
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Lee B
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When did the quality go bad? Everyone I know who bought the early On30 stuff (other than the shays and 0-4-0s) has no complaints about their durability.



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Cheer up Forrest. At least you have a "sink drain garbage grinder" - only seen in the very wealthiest homes in England !.

As I only started U.S. outline On30 modelling a couple of years ago I cannot comment on Bachmann's previous quality but the newer stuff isn't bad considering it is built down to a price. The loco & freight car superstructure detail is reasonably good for what it is. Pity about the awful wheel profile though; & the wrong height, non-working buckeyes. C'est la vie as we say.

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 Posted: Fri Apr 1st, 2016 03:08 am
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If On30 is so badly-made, I wonder why I can't find anyone willing to sell me a broken ten-wheeler I can use on my layout to represent a train heading back through the interchange (doesn't have to be a working loco at all).
Maybe their quality took a dive after those 4-6-0s were produced?



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Hi Lee,
from memory when the 4-6-0's were released, the gear problem was already known about and the 4-6-0's were delayed to make sure they didn't suffer from it. There were some pretty loud howls at the time abut why the 4-6-0's were taking so long to be delivered. This might explain why you are finding no "lame duck" 4-6-0's.

Initially the problem became apparent about the time of the first rail bus release, with the railbus and the Davenports both hitting trouble at about the same time, then it spread to a couple of other ON30 locos like the Shay.

The problem was apparently caused by the type of plastic in the axles and it treatment rather than the gears themselves. The axles reportedly expanded after processing and this then loaded up the gears when they were pushed on to the axles. So the stresses induced in the gear by an incorrect friction fit looked for a weak-point and they found one at the base of a gear tooth = a cracked gear and a "clicky" mech was the first symptom you had trouble.

For Forrest -
I'm pretty sure that someone came up with a repair method on the On30 Conspiracy that involved "splinting" the gear with thread. Im not sure of the details. It might work for your HO stuff and get you mobile again.



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oztrainz wrote:
from memory when the 4-6-0's were released, the gear problem was already known about and the 4-6-0's were delayed to make sure they didn't suffer from it. There were some pretty loud howls at the time abut why the 4-6-0's were taking so long to be delivered. This might explain why you are finding no "lame duck" 4-6-0's.Makes sense. Thanks for the info on that. I hadn't heard of Bachmann gearing issues until long after the fact. I'm very glad to know that the ten-wheelers aren't known for this as I'm horrible on repairing stuff like that and the 4-6-0s are all I ever bought for my layout (I have 4 of them).



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