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 Posted: 26 Nov 2016 01:22 am
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You don't like 'Streamlining'?

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I think that whoever designed the streamlining,
didn't understand aerodynamics.

As for the ugliness? 
I think that loco can be topped. 

Sure, the streamliner looks like a chop job,
but what about this:

http://www.douglas-self.com/MUSEUM/LOCOLOCO/belgian/belg1s2.jpg





A 2-2-2 steam locomotive from Belgium.

Looks like a tank locomotive with the tanks stripped off,
and coal bunkers on the pilot deck,
plus a cab with an enclosed back and an open front.

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How about this one with its slanted boiler ?

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In the UK this one usually wins:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SR_Q1_class

At least one preserved though. Must confess to remember seeing them running as a kid.

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Helmut

Yeah,
NPC No.21 was ugly as sin,
but that thing WAS quite innovative.

Camelbacks are another ugly duckling,
but that's just one man's opinion,
there are those that like the look of a center-cab steam locomotive.

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jtrain wrote:
Camelbacks ...

There are those that like the look of a center-cab steam locomotive.

 
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jtrain wrote:
I think that whoever designed the streamlining,
didn't understand aerodynamics.

As for the ugliness? 
I think that loco can be topped. 

Sure, the streamliner looks like a chop job,
but what about this:

A 2-2-2 steam locomotive from Belgium.

Looks like a tank locomotive with the tanks stripped off,
and coal bunkers on the pilot deck,
plus a cab with an enclosed back and an open front.


This one is actually probably a very early cab-forward,
fitted with a marine type boiler like the Northern Pacific #21.

The Italians also were running cab-forwards in the early 1900's.
Others got there well before Southern Pacific did with their AC's.




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Looks as it has been designed by a group of people that wouldn't talk to each other...
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Yep, those Camelbacks...
the fireman had to brave the elements while firing the boiler,
but he would be far less likely to get wasted when the main rod came un-done,
right under the engineer's seat! YIKES!!!

Woodie

BTW- I remember that there was an HOn3 kit for #21 some years back.
Anybody know of any models in HO or O scale?




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Had a surprise yesterday. This was on the centre turntable at the National Railway Museum at York. It is the preserved example of this wartime loco.

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Above loco is a Bulleid Q1 Class. Built as 'economy' WW2 locos minus all the frills & fancy bits - partly to simplify servicing but also to save on axle weight to increase route availability. Said to be the most powerful main line 0-6-0s ever to run in Britain - appearances can be deceiving.
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They were so successful that their withdrawal only started in 1963, the last one being retired  1966 and 33001 stayed in operation on the Bluebell till 2004.

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And you wonder why I don't like trains


I'm sticking with the Oldsmobile !

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A typical West Coast beach bum attitude - no appreciation of aesthetically beautiful design !
Happy Christmas Eddy,      Michael

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All it needs is about $100 of PSC detail parts and some weathering and it will be up there with the best of them.

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I kinda like that loco, but where are the cylinders?  It also looks to be quite massive for an 0-6-0, must have been able to pull quite a few cars.

Just goes to show, trains don't have to be pretty, they just need to do their job.  Plenty of elegant locos out there couldn't perform well, and met the scrappers torch many years sooner than these ugly ducklings.

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jtrain wrote: I kinda like that loco, but where are the cylinders? 

Well, the British don't like to show the works that easily
 - this loco got inside cylinders



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It also looks to be quite massive for an 0-6-0, must have been able to pull quite a few cars.

Well, the Brits kinda liked freight power without any annoying accessories like pilot or trailing trucks. This was a real main line freighter, not some yard goat.

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