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 Posted: Mon Feb 11th, 2019 04:50 am
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I have added a horse drawn wagon, made up of two log bogies and some planks of wood,

taking supplies back to the saw mill located in the bush.

















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Hello Rod!

Very nice work on your layout and your models!

I'm considering wooden rails for my deadrail logging operation in On30.
I'm working on a Class A Climax right now.

I see you have very wide tread width on your wheels.
Is that for realism, or did you have issues with standard HO tread width?
I'd like to not have to find wide tread wheel if I don't have to.

Thanks for your reply.

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Dig around and find some books on logging railroads. 
Railroads in the Woods comes to mind, and This Was Logging.

Both have photos of pole road logging railroad operations. 
They tended to run wider tread width.

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Dana,

Timber rails were not used with motive power much at all. 
They were primarily used for horse drawn logged or sawn timber. 

In cases where it was used, steel rails would be used on curves,
or the timber may have flat metal sheet nailed on to them.

Where locos were used, the weight of the loco,
would quickly cause the timber to break down. 

In addition straight pieces of timber were used on curves,
so the gauge on curves would vary with distance.
 
Hence the wide tread.

Another option is pole roads and double flange wheels. 




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For single flange wheels on pole roads,
the tread was wider than wide wheels used on sawn timber rail.








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Thanks guys!

I was really asking more about the performance of standard HO wheels on scale wooden rails.

I guess I can set up a temporary track and see what happens.


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Hi Rod

Just seen your logging model, very nice.

But where did you get the wide-tread wheels from ?
Or did you make them ?

Would like to source some for myself.

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James Field wrote:

But where did you get the wide-tread wheels from ?
Or did you make them ?

Would like to source some for myself.


The wheels came from a friend,
and are not commercially available.

However they are relatively easy to make. 


Make a master from tube, add a flange and spokes. 
Have the master copied by a caster.

Alternatively have them drawn up in 3D,
and printed at Shapeways, then cast in brass or similar.




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Dana Russell wrote:
I was really asking more about the performance of standard HO wheels on scale wooden rails.
I guess I can set up a temporary track and see what happens.


You may have gauge variation,
that will be too large to accommodate conventional wheels. 

My normal tread wheels fail on the timber rail.




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Many thanks for the feedback,

will try out what you suggested.


Regards James


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