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I want to do something very different.

So I found logging railroads in Mississippi and Pennsylvania that are 42" gauge.


S scale is the easiest way to do this, using HO standard tracks.

But I need some help to get started.


Anyone out there like me?


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Howdy Lance,

Although I don't know who may be building Sn42, there must be some doing this.
S scale offers many details and structures so give it a go.
 
As an aside, many years back, before Sn3 got established,
TOMALCO imported an Sn42 D&RGW C16 loco...later to be offered in Sn3.
That may have been the "beginning" of S narrow gauge.
I know that I have seen Sn42 locos, etc. shown in old model train mags.

Anybody have info about this viable narrow gauge plan?

BTW, welcome to Freerails.
Try using the search for other mentions/topics related to this.

Woodie


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Hi Lance:

While I don't remember seeing an article about Sn42,
there is a free S scale internet mag:

http://sscaleresource.com

May be worth trying.

Jose


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Lance


Consider joining - ausnarrowgauge@yahoo.com

Certain you will find a few modeller's who model Sn3&1/2 in Australia or New Zealand.


NZ Railways are mostly 3ft 6in aka 42in gauge.

Along with most Railways in Tasmania and Northern Australia.


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Hello!

Currently I am an HO modeler who models California in the 1930’s.

My layout was featured in the May, 2016 issue of Model Railroader magazine –
A Stream Era Switching Layout.

I am wanting to model in a larger scale. 
On30 seems a bit to big.
 
I also need to control costs so I am thinking of switching to Sn42 (Sn3½)  -
S scale narrow gauge on  HO gauge track.
 
I plan on scratch building all of my structures and rolling stock.
Since there is very little out there on this scale/gauge.

I am hoping to connect with someone else who may have tried it.
Looking forward to this forum!

Jim


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Hi Lance

I am also looking into Sn42. 

You can see more about me in my New Member hello post,
that I just posted in the narrow gauge forum. 

I was wondering if you ever did anything with Sn42?
 
Looking forward to hearing from you.

Jim Molloy


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Hi Jim :wave:



WELCOME ! to the Freerails EXPRESS !! :slow:



There are a few '42ers lurking around.

TT and 3/8" scale I believe. L:

Another Member recently enquired about Sers as well.



Lots of N.G. fans here in any case.

We are just NUTZ about railroadin' ! :)



:moose:



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Jim

You may be interested in taking a look at the New Zealand Model Railway Guild.
They should be able to supply a list of Sn3&1/2 suppliers.

There was a company in New Zealand called Railmaster Exports,
which made S scale NG, in Sn3 and Sn3&1/2.

I will admit I still have 3 of the WP&Y 90 Class diesel's,
perhaps on day I will complete them.

http://www.nzmrg.org.nz

Ken C
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Hi Ken,

Thanks for the tip. 

I will check it out!


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Any Sn42 modelers on here ?

Andy



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Howdy Andy, welcome to this craazie group!

Wow, Sn42 or Sn3.5, I haven't seen anything here,
but there MUST be some guys out here working in the scale.

I do remember that long ago, TOMALCO imported a brass "D&RGW" C16 in Sn42 which ran on HO gauge track.
I almost bought one then, I think it was $79 for a brass loco but got involved in other stuff.

Then I remember that PFM brought out an Sn3 C16 and I suppose that's what got the scale/gauge going, that and PBL.
There just may be some of the old TOMALCO lokies around.

There were several 42" gauge loggers (Yeon & Pelton, etc.) so there are some cool prototypes to model.
Do you have any equipment so far or is this in the planning stage?
Let us know.


Woodie


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*** I just searched here for Sn42 and there were some hits...enjoy.

Just hit the search button & there you go. ***

WCG


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Well thank you for the information.

Nothing yet, just looking into it.

Looking at 0n30, but everything being O scale eats up a lot of room.


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Have you looked at doing 1:55n3 ?

It's very much a kitbash and scratch build scale,
but it's a similar concept to Sn42, in that it is all HO mechs and track.

In this, smaller than S scale, you can use small equipment and curves.


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Given that you have not begun yet I'll offer a couple thoughts. 

If you are not modeling a specific prototype,
the scale does not necessarily equate to the size area needed to build a layout. 

As an example look at Woodie's 1/35th scale Big Bend Two Foot Gauge. 
The average car length and locomotive is no bigger than a standard gauge HO.
Structures and details are larger but selectively compressing them results in structures similar in size to HO.
 
Similarly, look at my Geneseo Railway. 
Not for everyone I know but, 15-18 inch gauge equipment is smaller than HO in length.
Again the space that structures occupies is no more than most HO due to selective compression. 
I began with a 2x8 switching module which offered a lot of operation. 

Larger scales usually mean less overall structures but greater detail and easier construction. 
If space is the main concern keep an open mind. 
If you have a specific theme or prototype in mind then that may limit you. 
Of course you will need to consider availability of items specific to the scale you are considering.
 
Anything other than N, HO and O will have a lot less to offer and dictate more scratch building. 
For Woodie and I the scratch building and not seeing your models on other layouts is a large part of the draw. 
Also - we both claim to be cheap.


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Welcome. 

I model in Gn15, which is about 1/24 or half inch scale. 

HO track and mechanisms can be used, but a lot of scratch-building, as well.

Check out threads here to learn more about this scale/gauge.

Regards, Dave L.


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As Bob, TGB, and David suggested, think about what you want to do...

There are several scales that can me modeled using HO track gauge. From Sn42 to ???.
I use 16.5MM gauge for my 2' railroad, choosing 1:35 scale (military scale),
since there are many cool details available,
and in that scale, HO track gauge is pretty much "dead on" as 24" gauge.
I could also consider my stuff as 1:32 (3/8") scale and then the gauge would be 20"...
Awww, my old mind is boggled already.

1:55n3, 1:24n15 (Gn15), on and on...it's your choice.
We all love our chosen scales and each has it's special charms.
As for me, I have always enjoyed scratchbuilding,
and even if I chose an "established" scale, I would want to make stuff myself.

As I like to say-"have fun and run a train today!"

Woodie


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Just realized I posted 1:55 is smaller.

Meant as a narrow gauge model you can go pretty small.

It's definitely bigger than S scale.


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Thanks everyone, you given me a lot to think about.

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As far as NA go's the majority of 42 Inch gauge operated in Canada,
is on Prince Edward Island, Newfoundland and a logging operation in British Columbia.

There is a series of books on the Newfoundland Railway published.
Also a few kits for the side dumps used, a few which ended up on the WP&YRly.
The majority of the rolling stock was retrucked standard gauge cars.

The Ross-Saskatoon Lumber Co operated 3 2-truck SHAY's in British Columbia for a time.

There are HO models from Australia built for 42 Inch gauge.


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Since Canadian railways were mentioned.

I have this as yet unfinished model of a PIER bagage car in 1:55.
Not prototype, but I am using it as 1:55n3.

I like to find blue prints of things I like,
and then adapt them to my fictional layout.

Seems to be the trend on this site.





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When I had access to a copier that could enlarge/reduce,
I resized many plans, mostly to 1/2 " scale.

What fun to imagine new projects that way.

:)

Regards, Dave L.


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I'm late to the conversation,

but a I do moderate the Sn42 Conspiracy on Groups IO.

https://groups.io/g/Sn42Conspiracy/topics


The main providers to Sn42 are in NZ.  

Most notable is Railmaster Exports.  

https://www.railmaster.co.nz/


My 2¢ TC Carr

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Hello TC

Since this has been brought back to the top
someone may look at it in the future and hope for more ideas.


It seems every time the question of Sn42 is brought up,
many people suggest looking outside the US.

That's ok but does shortchange our local 42-inch gauge inspirations.
Many small logging operations used cast off urban transportation equipment.

Think steam dummy locomotives, mostly 0-4-0 tank engines.
Also, there were quite a few Shay locomotives built to 42-inch.


Here is a website developed around one person's interest in 42-inch.
http://www.raccooncrkrwy.com/42gauge.HTM


Personally, I keep coming back to Sn42 as an alternative to On30
for a budget retirement layout in a spare bedroom.

I always look at how much space structures take up
and how easy people are to paint.


Happy modeling.

Ian



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