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 Posted: Sat May 15th, 2021 02:00 pm
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Rip Van Winkle Would Be A Fair Example.

 
Hello my fellow modelers. 

For what small interest it may be,
that old story describes my leaving the hobby in the late 1970s.
 
Only following through a few magazine purchases through the next 40 years,
and then my retirement a few years ago, and the opening of the room,
I had prepared many years earlier, for my return to this hobby.   


I was lucky to have been a Museum Exhibit Specialist here in NYS,
and I owe that wonderful job, that gave me years of joy,
directly to the most famous model railroader of all, John Allen.

So to make a very long research project, and room preparation story, short,
I am rebuilding John's famous Gorre & Daphetid Line as a tribute to him,
and to try and create, in some way, a different ending to John's incredible story,
of triumph and masterful excellence, ended so tragically and completely in 1973.     


So, too much to explain, and this is just a place to say hello.
I am pleased to read and see some of the work this group does, that's why I joined. 


I have a Facebook page (soon to be a website)
if you want to see the rebuilding of John Allen's famous layout as it progresses,
please like and follow the page and watch for the new address coming soon.

The younger guys might not get it, but anyone of an age in here,
will have fun seeing this crazy project take shape.  

Wow, let me tell you this mans work is a task to replicate correctly,
but it is fun going back to old school techniques and research to try and get it right. 


This is to be a Museum Quality replication of his breathtaking masterpiece,
and it suits my retirement plans perfectly, I kind of "hate" sitting around. 

It seems to me that good modeling is good modeling,
the goal should always be toward realism.
 
To what degree we pursue this should only be determined by the skills we possess,
and balance with how much fun is created in the attempt to achieve excellence. 

When the two are in sync, it is a beautiful thing

Randy Lee Decker


https://www.facebook.com/Great-Divide-Lines-423511918192732/?modal=admin_todo_tour


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Now that is an ambitious project!








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Randy, nice project.

I am astonished you resisted the urge to start building G&D locomotives...
I look forward to see the damaged Emma?

And, is there information online,
regarding the restoration of the locos by Mr Matsumoto?


I feel it's a good idea not to attempt a 100% replica of the G&D.
 
But to incorporate some subtle changes,
even more, if these are tongue-in-cheek things.

Which John surely would have appreciated.




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Thanks Gerold

There are a few of the engines painted. 
Will letter some for the Gorre & Daphetid for photo shoots and visitors...
but most for the Great Divide. 

I have a few of John's original decal sheets now,
so will remake these when I can find the time to get it done. 

Not quite ready for any operations anyway.  No hurry.
Just test engines and track cleaners right now. 


I have been experimenting with 'Battery Powered Radio Control'.  
As I am looking at around $5,000 to set this up using DCC. 
To have 6 controllers and all 35 or so engines set up for sound, about $6500.

And I already have everything and more, to hook this up DC with PFM sound.
But I just can't bring myself to begin all that work knowing how obsolete DC is. 
My knee's are not those of a young man anymore either.


So I am in stage 2 of tests for 'Battery Powered Radio Control', stage 1 hit my goals.  
I have a system coming and will use my own battery packs I have learned how to build,
with regulators, and they are set up for Li-Po charging and the correct "break in".

If I achieve the expected 5 hours run time with 10 cars 
(I am using 14 cars to simulate an estimate  for the grades)
then I am sold and away the new D&G will go with 'B.P.R.C.' and 6 custom receivers.
Each one with up to 50 possible engine signals, directional lighting and sound.
 

I have boxes of the Old School, motor driven, switch machines I can use,
will set them up on a board that will look like John's original control board.     
I will complete signal lighting and building lighting and accessories in a DCC package. 

The Trolley system is simple so will run on DC, I might even run the one HOn3 line DC. 
A fortune saved and operations will be superior in so many ways.
I'd have to fit every engine I have with DCC systems anyway, so that work is the same.

Randy  


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I sure hope that you post here, or get that website up.

I don't do Facebook.


But I sure think this is a cool project.

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Randy

Did you see my posts re. the G&D Gas Electric I built?

(and which I lettered for my private line, as it came out as a shorty)

http://freerails.com/view_topic.php?id=8764&forum_id=51




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Yes indeed Steven, just as soon as I can get it up and running I will post a link.      

If I can figure out how to upload a photo or two,
I will send some things, so people can see something to get an idea.     

It is a fun thing to see take shape again.

If you remember John's many articles or have the book,
you'll have a blast seeing the comparison photo's and watching me struggle !

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John Allen's  'Gorre & Daphetid' ... Rebuilding.


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corv8 wrote: 
Did you see my posts re. the G&D Gas Electric I built?

(and which I lettered for my private line, as it came out as a shorty)


Well I need to look at that again, but this is interesting.  

I am an old school kinda modeler,
and am kitbashing some LaBelle combine kits I've had for this car. 

But your work looks quite accurate.  Love it..!  

Randy.


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I think Randy might well be modeling the 140' high Ryan Gulch curved trestle !





G.D.Line Heisler No.6 is 'helper' for a big logging consist, from July 1961.


Photo from eBay, where there are lots of old vintage magazines for sale.

It's hard to believe that this edition of Model Railroader is 60 years old !


:shocked:


Eddie




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