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I'm actively planning the next layout,
following on from 'The End Of The Line' and 'Denton Brook'.

It is to be a small harbour layout (like so many others !)
Centred around loading a small steam coaster, called the 'S.S. Sparrow'.

I think she will be loaded with either granite or ironstone - we will see....

In any event, it will be brought to the harbour by 2ft gauge,
and also occasionally by lorry.





'The Sparrow' plan.


The Sparrow is based on a Caldercraft hull,
with a scratchbuilt superstructure to 1:43

Not quite finished yet, but getting there....










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The locos will be from North Wales,
and in fact are all kits with scratchbuilt chassis.

They are all powered by 3.7v micro gearmotors,
and are radio controlled via Deltang Rx41-22 receivers.

First there are a pair of small Pecketts,
each with 500mAh batteries in their boiler/saddletanks.


The Green one....





O-14 Peckett, radio controlled Gamecock - 7mm/ft scale.


And the Black one.
(The steam dome has been gold plated rather than painted)





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Next, a 'Wrightlines' Bagnall.
(which may get a re-paint)

I built this with Walschearts valve gear,
because I preferred it.

This has a 650mAh battery,
and lasts more than a day of exhibition work.





Then we have 'Gwynedd', an etched brass loco, fitted with a 700mAh battery.





O-14 Quarry Hunslet 'Gwynedd'


And finally Manning Wardle 'Jubilee 1897'
Also etched brass, but with a 1000mAh battery.





Manning Wardle 'Jubilee 1897'


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The chassis are all built the same way (basically).

Milled and silver-soldered construction, with drop-in wheelsets.
Outside cranks and rods are also milled (I have a little Stepcraft CNC machine)


This is Gwynedd's chassis.





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Wow, I'm quite impressed.

How long is the ship?




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There should be a good sized ship on every layout.



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There should be a good sized ship on every layout.

A Liberty ship is 441' long.  That is 5' in HO.

Unless you model in Z-scale, you would need a layout built in a hangar,
so the ship wouldn't overwhelm everything else.

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On my layout it would have to be Noah's Ark,

as my layout is in the mountains.

:bg:  :bg:

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" What's a cubit ?? "  :bg:  :P

For those who don't get the significance -
Noah's ark dimensions were specified in " cubits ".

Peter you're gonna need a bigger mountain...  :bg:


Superb work Giles.  :bow:  :bow:  :bow:  :apl:  :apl:  :apl:

I can't wait to watch this one come together.
Please keep the good stuff coming.


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pipopak wrote:  
There should be a good sized ship on every layout.

A Liberty ship is 441' long.  That is 5' in HO.

Unless you model in Z-scale, you would need a layout built in a hangar,
so the ship wouldn't overwhelm everything else.


"Good sized" may include selective compression. 

A riverboat (NOT the Delta Queen) or a coastal schooner,
may fit the bill.
 
But it still has to 'dwarf' the railroad.

Same as industrial buildings,
which look embarrassing when too small.


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This one is just over 900mm long - a scale 120 feet - so only a little one !

It's been rather fun to look into early 20th Century steam coasters !


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Sounds good... 
For a centerpiece and eye catcher, a size that makes sense.

I was always fascinated by ships on layouts.
Especially Paddlewheelers and ferries.


Have bought the Walthers ferry when it was released,
and replaced the plastic rails with nickel silver ones for looks.

So I might run a small critter out on the water.

However, have never done much scenicing,
as I spend most hobby time with tinkering on locos + trolleys.


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The stern.





Steering chains have been added.





Charts etc. in the wheelhouse.





The difference between 1:48 doors (whitemetal) and 1:43 doors (acrylic).





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oztrainz wrote: 
Peter you're gonna need a bigger mountain...


Like Arrarat ? 

I think I spelled it right.  ;)


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That is a very nice ship. 

Reminds me of California Dog Hole Schooners. 

Nice work.


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pipopak wrote: 
A Liberty ship is 441' long.  That is 5' in HO.

Unless you model in Z-scale, you would need a layout built in a hangar,
so the ship wouldn't overwhelm everything else.


Good point.

People don't really get how large even a 'small' ship is,
until you start measuring how big even a small scale model of one is.
 
I must admit I'd love to have a place,
where I could at least model some WW2 landing craft,

But there weren't many vessels larger than a canoe or a rowboat,
in the Blue Ridge Mountains on Tennessee!


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Lee B wrote:
People don't really get how large even a 'small' ship is,
until you start measuring how big even a small scale model of one is.


A friend built a small station after an Austrian prototype.
One siding, a modest one story building - exactly to scale.

It was larger than many layouts, that feature a mountain crossing,
a sprawling city, and an engine servicing area with roundhouse.

I am the type who wants everything...
But I have learned I have to pass on many things.

Still too much left.


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corv8 wrote:
A friend built a small station after an Austrian prototype.
One siding, a modest one story building - exactly to scale.

It was larger than many layouts, that feature a mountain crossing,
a sprawling city, and an engine servicing area with roundhouse.


I grew up in Florida.

A guy who lived in my hometown was going to build a perfect scale representation,
of the Seaboard depot and freight house (both of which still exist today)
in HO scale, including the spurs in the immediate area.

The real life area always appeared very small, as the depot wasn't really that big.
As I also did, he assumed the representation wouldn't take up more than 10 to 20 feet.

Once he got maps, and started understanding the size involved, he gave up the project,
when to his horror, he realized such an apparently small area in real life,
would take up a small airplane hangar, to do in perfect scale !


Ever since that day, I've always said that ALL layouts are representational by nature,
as you can't model everything in perfect scale.

Even the massive San Diego layout that represents Tehachapi Loop,
is quite a bit smaller, than it'd be in perfect scale.


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That's the joy of such a small coaster,

they really did come this small - and smaller !



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https://youtu.be/-w7DvmZ-FAY

One of the other factors in this new layout,
is the ability to discharge wagons in order to load the ship.

I decided to build some timber side-tippers,
of a style that have been used on both sides of the Atlantic.


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Hi Giles  :wave:


All lookin' in good order ... Shipshape & Bristol !  ;)


With your boat at 900mm long ...

.... your 'modules' ? look to be around 3' wide x 4' long (ish) ?  ???


I can't wait to see what you have in store for the N.G. bridge across the water.  :)


I'm also curious, as to why the 'modules' are in a 'boomerang' form ? ...  L:

... Aussie influence perhaps ?  :P


:doh::java:


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Hi Si.

Yes - 4' x 3'

I've gone for that odd shape,
because I really don't want a straight line of trackwork end to end - it needs curves!

I'm still in two minds about the bridge - whether to have a stone bridge or cast iron.

Much depends on what the water is doing underneath.
It will more be valley and stream as opposed to remotely navigable, I think.

The harbour will be a pool, ending at the bridge,
but of course at high tide the area above will flood anyway........


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Hi Giles  :wave:


Cast iron, is somehow what I was dreaming about ...

... maybe even along the top of a weir ?  ???


Maybe you could have the end of a canal AND a harbour.  L:


By the way, I haven't got a clue about these kinda things ...

... other than Boomerangs of course ! :P


My Father was keen on sailing & canal boating.  :old dude:

(before 'the brats' wrecked his nautical weekends !) ...  :f:



I remember a very curious (possibly even famous ?) harbour in Sussex ...

... called 'Bosham', where water kinda comes into the village, at high tide ?  L:


Not many Smugglers around there, that I could suspect anyway ...  [toast]

... I think Bosham was in a Len Deighton novel as a spy hideout !  :shades:


Ssshhh ... Don't tell a soul !  :cool:


:java::moose:


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My wife in our little dinghy in Bosham waiting for me to get her an ice-cream!





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I have 6 out of 14 completed, and the rest nearly so.

As models, they are quite crude,
but they perhaps capture the character I was after.

As expected, they are quite large,
much larger than the V-skips I used on 'The End Of The Line'.

They all work, and should be reasonably reliable.










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Hi Giles

Those side-dumpers look suitably "industrial". :2t: 


Please keep the photos coming as you finish up the rest of them.

That's going to be an impressive train when you are done.


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Ten now!





Also the coaching stock for the layout,
will be these three conversions of Bachmann tram cars.

I bought two from a friend, that he converted for his layout 'Brookford',
and I bought a new tramcar some years ago and decided to do something with it.

I have removed the glazing from the clerestories,
and printed vents and fitted them instead, and also repainted.

I have also removed all the Tram extras - such as controllers, gates etc.





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For Giles,

You've got the colour scheme right.  :2t:





Sydney Tramways Car 29 towing steam tram 1A back into the shed,
at the end of 1A's 100th birthday outing, at the Loftus Tramway Museum in 2017.

Car 29 was built in 1898.
All Sydney tramways were standard gauge.


And the fully enclosed Car 290 :

https://www.sydneytramwaymuseum.com.au/tramway/images/C290.jpg


For additional narrow-gauge inspiration - ex-Sydney Car 95 :

https://ilrms.com.au/rail/car-95/

Was originally on 4 wheels, but now runs on 2' gauge bogies.  :bg:


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Good Heavens.... I didn't know that.... !

Thank you for that John - how very interesting !


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Hi Giles  :wave:


Your photo of Bosham harbour, is an inspiration for sure !  :thumb:


I guess you can't take credit for the photography though ...  L:
... if you're next to the van, buying the ice creams ?
Then I thought, wait a minute, this is Giles we're talking about !  :brill:
He's probably got a radio-controlled model boat, with camera on it !!

There are some very tell tale ripples in the Bosham harbour water ...
... better get back FAST ! ... They could be from a surfacing U-Boat !  :shocked:





An absolutely timeless image ... Well, almost ...
... the only thing that's changed since I was there, are the Minis !





:java: :cool:


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