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 Posted: 18 Mar 2023 10:21 pm
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some of you may know the history of Westside models and its proprietor, Dick Truesdale , an airline pilot who started to import narrow gauge brass models from Japan. As this proved to be a success he expanded in standard gauge steamers, and took of the distribution of the diesels and passenger cars formerly sold by Balboa. 
He had a layout in his basement much like John Allen, and operated his fictious private line, the "Halfhollow & Huntington".  When he lost interest, he sold his equipment mostly ate evilbay. I bought a number of steamers, many cabooses and his only diesels - three E-8 units. 
Last year an additional E8 lettered H&H showed up in sad condition, only a damaged + incomplete shell with heavily modified sides and roof. As it has the distinctive H&H emblem on its sides and nose, and the modifications are nicely done, I tend to believe that she was onee of his weird projects even when the color scheme was different to his other models.



Now I mulled about the reason for those modifications. My guess is, that the high cutouts in the sides may only make sense with steam loco type drivers - he might have been inspired by the ACE 3000
http://www.trainweb.org/tusp/ult.html
I checked against various steam locos I have at hand, and found that an PRR Q-2 drive would fit perfectly - Dick imported a model of this Duplex. Unfortunately; I sold one some years ago.
- "assembled" this beast with photoshop. Thats it for the moment, but I have an spare Broadway Duplex T-1 which I bought at a fire sale stored somewhere... 



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That's one weird loco chassis Gerold! Presumably not articulated so not a Mallet or a Meyer configuration. Looking at the PRR Q2 and Broadway T1 photos, both cylinder sets face forwards so I presume yours is a product only of your Photoshoping.



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 Posted: 19 Mar 2023 12:12 am
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Here's a brass hand built model.

https://www.brasstrains.com/classic/Product/Detail/034443/HO-UTAO-WAKI-HANDBUILT-ACE-3000-Advanced-Steam-Loco

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slateworks wrote:  Looking at the PRR Q2 and Broadway T1 photos, both cylinder sets face forwards so I presume yours is a product only of your Photoshoping.Well, actually,
http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/prr6130.jpg
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http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/tr_prr6130.jpg

6130 had the aft cylinders reversed but it turned out the mechanism collected too much grit and grime so with 6131 things were reoriented,
http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/prr6131.jpg

Great book for learning about PRR steam,



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I have several Duplexes (Duplexii?) at hand so I tried to hold the E unit shell to them. First choice would be a Q2,  but I selected a Q-1 for the photoshop experiment for no special reason . Unfortunatly the only locomotive I might sacrifice is an Broadway T-1 which isnt quite right in its dimensions. But will watch out, maybe something else will show up; or a Texas Type (2-10-4) might be an alternative. 
- I was always astonished about the idea behind the AC3000 - the "modern" ( eh....  late Sixties/ early Seventies) styling on a steam loco driving gear is in my opinion stretching imagination to far. 
My - and maybe back then Dick's - idea would be that in the Fourties/ Fifties somebody might have built an experimental locomotive with parts that were available then. This means, first generation diesel parts and parts from any steam locomotive imaginable. 



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slateworks wrote: That's one weird loco chassis Gerold! Presumably not articulated so not a Mallet or a Meyer configuration. Looking at the PRR Q2 and Broadway T1 photos, both cylinder sets face forwards so I presume yours is a product only of your Photoshoping.
I feel only a rigid frame drive is suitable, so a Duplex or long wheelbase Northern, Texas or so. 
- One problem I found ist that the carbody has a very long overhang, especially in front with cab and nose . So it might be necessary (as I did in the Photoshop experiment) to reverse the drive, and have it run with the firebox end forward - with cylinders in the rear the overhang would be considerably reduced. 
Just tried the shell on some small (2-6-6-2) Mallet drives ... dont think this is the way to go. Thats begin of the century technology, long outdated at the time somebody might have built such an experimental. 



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I happily stand corrected Gerold. I'd looked for images for ages but come up with nothing so yours are most welcome.



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designed a tender for her...  



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I'm looking forward to seeing the finished project Gerold, when are you starting?......Peter



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 Posted: 23 Mar 2023 08:25 am
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2foot6 wrote: I'm looking forward to seeing the finished project Gerold, when are you starting?......Peter

its still way down on the to do list.   If I happen to find a suitable orphan steam drive, it may be rushed on the workbench. 



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